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I see that many of you/us take great pleasure in purchasing quality/high performance/prestigious (if you will) components--and even FRAMES--and then take more pleasure in removing the "branding" stickers. My question is, Why?

Someone recently took the Ksyrium stickers off a pair of top-end Mavic wheels and someone else is considering removing decals from his Merckx (Argh!).

I've heard the self-righteous cries of, "They're not paying me to ride their stuff, so why should I give them free advertising?" again and again and feel this foolish "reasoning." We buy things from specific companies in the first place because they have a certain amount of prestige/quality or certain looks (and don't deny that you buy things for looks--or for even small amounts of bragging rights, either!), and we all feel some sense of brand loyalty, I'm certain. What's the deal with stripping logos off bikes, wheels, seatposts, forks, etc?

Of course no one here's getting paid to ride Ksyriums; there are hundreds of RBRers who do, though, and are thrilled with their performance and looks. Why do we hate the companies we love? What's with the "stealth" thing? We have money enough to afford taking part in an expensive sport. We spend said money on some outrageously priced gadgets and gear. Then we remove all "proof" that we spent on this quality gear.

Someone please straighten me out on this. I personally like brands on bikes and components (without a bike looking like an Indy car), obviously, but I'm interested into the mindsets of all you destickerers out there. Enlighten me.

Cheers,
Nige
 
Whatever floats your boat is fine with me.

Some enjoy and value brand names, some don't. If removing decals makes the user happy, great. If having stickers all over everything makes the user happy, great.

Ride your bike.
Keep your dirty stinkin' decal removing hands off mine.
 
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Thanks. I can see why less (stickers) may be more for the desired effect--nothing like a classic road bike with just a few stickers--but to completely remove logos from an entire bike I can't understand unless it's a beater/lock-up/messenger bike; it's for reasons obvious to me, then.

A manufacturer's font and style make a bike nicer to look at to me, but I guess it's a case of different spokes for different folks.
 
I agree that bikes have gone over the top with labels, stickers, logos and stupid ancronyms pasted to every single part. Have you seen a Cannondale recently... put away the labelmaker fer cryin' out loud.
Do I need to remind the world that my chainstays are S.H.A.T. enhanced (Synthetic Harmonic Absorption Technology)? Or that Pinarello can also be found at www.pinarello.com? :D
Frames and wheels are the worst violators. Tall rims are for gigantorific graphics as is each frame tube. I guess if we were all sponsored and frequently hucked big drops over photographers it might make soooome sense.
 
GiantNigel said:
...Someone please straighten me out on this. I personally like brands on bikes and components (without a bike looking like an Indy car), obviously, but I'm interested into the mindsets of all you destickerers out there. Enlighten me...
Ksyrium wheels look like indy cars with all the stickers. Many modern race-inspired frame graphics look like billboards. Folks who remove stickers may be trying to recover a little bit of the CLASS of cycling. Look at the custom frame builders today - most don't spend extra time billboarding their frames. The reputation and prestige result from their individual genious, welding artistry and engineering (not graphics). It's mainly the mass market stuff (yes I know, even the expensive prestigious mass market stuff) that gets billboarded. That's the mindset I just don't get...
 
I remember a time when clothing only had a label on the inside, where it couldn't be seen. Yet a few weeks ago I picked up a copy of Sports Illustrated & one of letters to the editor gave tongue-in-cheek congratulations to the magazine for getting something like 37 Nike logos on players' uniforms in a single picture.

Bikes with a seizure-inducing amount of logos are just another step in the pimpinization (can I make that a word?) of America.
 
I think I read somewhere of a new Scott SC1 somewhere having somethin like 20 or so stickers/decals/logos etc on the frame alone. & more often than not the things those logos/stickers are attached to are prettier to look at by themselves---rather than having a whole bunch of eyesore level logos covering everything up.

That being said-I like the decals on my 04 Talon
 
Sometimes stickers is ugly.

Those Kyriums without stickers looked very classic to me. Much less "HEY LOOK AT ME!" I have both removed and added to make a bike look better to me. I like vertical logos on the fork blades and seatstays. One on either down or top tube not both. Nothing on the seat tube.

I like classic simple designs on the bike.
 
I haven't done it but I've thought about it. Clean minimalist look. Could also be a conversation starter..."hey what kind of ... is that?" Personal preference I guess, I think some look better with decals while other decals are just too much. Art would not change my buying decision, though.
 
GiantNigel said:
I've heard the self-righteous cries of, "They're not paying me to ride their stuff, so why should I give them free advertising?" again and again and feel this foolish "reasoning." We buy things from specific companies in the first place because they have a certain amount of prestige/quality or certain looks (and don't deny that you buy things for looks--or for even small amounts of bragging rights, either!), and we all feel some sense of brand loyalty, I'm certain. What's the deal with stripping logos off bikes, wheels, seatposts, forks, etc?

Cheers,
Nige
Think again. You may buy stuff because of its prestige, but some of us buy stuff because of its value and quality. Personally, I don't need to have stickers to show what I am riding.
 
Classic

I just removed all the stickers from my Litespeed Vortex, except the one on the seatstay that reads "titanium". The result is a generic-looking, like the cans of coffee that just said "coffee" back in the day. I love how it looks now.

With the exceptions of companies like Independant Fabrications and Waterford, most American bike manufacturers use some awful 90's corporate type font. If you're happy with that look, by all means keep it, you paid for it. But to my eye almost every bike can be improved with a bit of selective sticker removal.

It doesn't effect the ride quality one way or the other.
 
love the bike, not necessarily the decals.

My tank-like Diamondback Axis from the early 90's once had orange decals over an "interesting" white-spreckle-on-black paint job (a pattern not unlike the inside of a Boston Whaler hull). Removing the decals from that bike made the world a better place.

I'm a minimalist, still in love with the classic one color with white panels approach on a road frame, so removing decals is just fine with me.
 
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I "thought again" the first time. I neither need stickers or prestige when buying a product, and value and quality are tops for me as well. That said, I wouldn't go and remove all the "GIANT" stickers from my TCR solely because they're "not paying me" to ride their frames; then again, the Giant stickers merely say "GIANT" and don't have websites and acronyms on them.

I see people's points now as I read the responses. I suppose I really wonder why people remove ALL stickers from things to make them absolutely blank and plain. I like "classic" as much as the next guy/gal, but I feel that moderate logos often enhance products.

As far as value goes, my TCR has mainly 105 components and I just bought some Neuvation wheels for their performance and value. Granted, they're covered with logos, but I happen to like the look and love the ride of 'em.

Didn't meant to offend anyone; again, I was asking for reasons for the destickering and I got some. Thanks to all for responding, and happy, fast riding.

Nige
 
I'll just add more of the same to the thread ...

I love the look of a clean, logo-free, bike. Just sold a Merlin Extralight. It was sans stickers on everything except for one sticker left on one chainstay. it said 'designed by Rob Vandermark'. Classic Ti frame, white bar tape, black saddle and rims pretty free of advertising. Just looked great.

My 2002 LeMond Maillot Juane looks like a freakin light show next to the Merlin. Bright Red/Yellow hi-gloss paint, stickers and decals ..... UGLY ! I put up with the looks 'cause the ride is very sweet and it would be more difficult to tone down than a Ti bike.

Guess it's just a personal thing. I like what I consider to be a more 'classy' look of a clean, logo-free, bike. Others love all the colors and logos. Great thing is that there is room, and products, for all of us.

GiantNigel said:
I see that many of you/us take great pleasure in purchasing quality/high performance/prestigious (if you will) components--and even FRAMES--and then take more pleasure in removing the "branding" stickers. My question is, Why?

Someone recently took the Ksyrium stickers off a pair of top-end Mavic wheels and someone else is considering removing decals from his Merckx (Argh!).

I've heard the self-righteous cries of, "They're not paying me to ride their stuff, so why should I give them free advertising?" again and again and feel this foolish "reasoning." We buy things from specific companies in the first place because they have a certain amount of prestige/quality or certain looks (and don't deny that you buy things for looks--or for even small amounts of bragging rights, either!), and we all feel some sense of brand loyalty, I'm certain. What's the deal with stripping logos off bikes, wheels, seatposts, forks, etc?

Of course no one here's getting paid to ride Ksyriums; there are hundreds of RBRers who do, though, and are thrilled with their performance and looks. Why do we hate the companies we love? What's with the "stealth" thing? We have money enough to afford taking part in an expensive sport. We spend said money on some outrageously priced gadgets and gear. Then we remove all "proof" that we spent on this quality gear.

Someone please straighten me out on this. I personally like brands on bikes and components (without a bike looking like an Indy car), obviously, but I'm interested into the mindsets of all you destickerers out there. Enlighten me.

Cheers,
Nige
 
Lessens the attraction to thieves, plus...

An LBS owner I ride with occasionally has a big stable of really nice bikes dating back to the '80s. As he's worked on them, he's removed a lot of the badges and stickers, and for awhile even had HUFFY decals on his Masi 3V. He said he does it for the same reason he paints his skis with big pink and orange slashes and polka dots (which he's also done to a couple of bikes): It discourages the casual thief. A knowledgeable felon might still spot the Colnago under the Zolotone, but a guy just looking for drug money might pass it up and grab the Schwinn next to it. Anyway, what's it to you?
 
I agree, the modern look of branding a bike like a race car just isnt me. I hate the web site addresses the most.

I'm happy with having the frame manufacturers logo, the model and the tubeset/material. I don't mind the rim model either. I don't have any other stickers on my bikes. The only other brands are painted on or clear coated graphics. I won't repaint a frame or ruin a paint job to remove stickers.

But as always, ride what ever you're comfortable with.
 
My Trek came with 15 separate decals saying "Bontrager". You would think that I bought a Bontrager brand bike. Not that that is a bad thing.
Clearly Trek is using my bike and all the other new Treks as a marketing tool to increase the visability of Bontrager. Unless they pay me, I have the right to get rid of those decals.
 
hrmm, i wonder if someone has thought about this the other way !?

what about "low end" manufacturers of al frames? some taiwanese brands that utilise columbus tubing have truly garish looking welds, stickers and paint schemes. Has anyone considered stripping one of those, sanding back the welds a lil' and smoothing them over with body filler and painting those things up?

it'll be an interesting project... some celeste paint, 2x bianchi stickers and a columbus sticker, who would know?

price difference $400 vs $1200 for columbus zonal :eek:
 
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