All the Jerseys (except young rider), at least 6 stage wins, a sprinter that drops climbers on hills, a leader that went from no memorable results before 2021 to coming in 2nd to his teammate in a long time trial. It all seems highly suspicious. Convince me this is not a chemical win.
Is Jumbo-Visma the new Gewiss-Ballan?
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All the Jerseys (except young rider), at least 6 stage wins, a sprinter that drops climbers on hills, a leader that went from no memorable results before 2021 to coming in 2nd to his teammate in a long time trial. It all seems highly suspicious. Convince me this is not a chemical win.
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Well, because...
“We’re totally clean. Everyone of us. I can say that to everyone of you,” he told the gathered media and photographers after stage 20.
“No one of us is taking anything illegal. I think why we’re so good is the preparation that we do. We take altitude camps to the next step. We do everything with material, food, and training. The team is the best within this. That’s why you have to trust.”
Jonas Vingegaard on Tour de France dominance: 'We’re totally clean, you have to trust us' - VeloNews.com
“We’re totally clean. Everyone of us. I can say that to everyone of you,” he told the gathered media and photographers after stage 20.
“No one of us is taking anything illegal. I think why we’re so good is the preparation that we do. We take altitude camps to the next step. We do everything with material, food, and training. The team is the best within this. That’s why you have to trust.”
Jonas Vingegaard on Tour de France dominance: 'We’re totally clean, you have to trust us' - VeloNews.com
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I think doping is so ingrained in the sport at the professional level, the riders justify it by saying to themselves that we are all doing it, you can't compete at the pro level without it, and the alternative is to do something else for a living. To break the omerta is to ruin it for everyone that makes their living in the pro peloton, the riders, the coaches, the "doctors", the staff, the commentators, etc. Speak out and you will be ostracized forever and everyone will deny and badmouth you. The same applies for many other sports as well. I guess it's just shut up and enjoy the show...
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I've pretty much lost all interest in following bicycle racing. I really don't pay much attention to any sport. To win at any cost holds no interest to me.
I follow Wout all year long he never stops training. Just follow him on Strava. Watch him in the CX races in the winter. He trains hard the whole year round. Same with all the other Jumbo riders. It’s the new way forward for racers. In the past riders would take winter months off riding and would not start till March.
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"Everybody wants to know what I'm on? What am I on? I'm on my bike busting my ass 6 hours a day. What are you on?"
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Didn't a certain Mr. Armstrong say that?
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They all train hard, some train harder than others...doesn't mean they are automatically saints or the other....nobody should be above suspicion.
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You could have written that on Nov 18, 2005.
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How is it that over half the peleton has asthma (to be fair, I don't know if it is true today, but it weas true a few years ago when Wiggins and Froom were winning tours). Even Froom uses an inhaler "preventatively". For crying out loud, inhalers are not preventative, they are for emergency use. And under normal conditions the effect don't last very long. I have a theory that the use of an inhaler in conjunction with some of the doping drugs allows the blood to absorb more O2 than just doping alone. I think some research needs to be done there. The sad thing is that all the stuff they are saying now about incremental improvements and maybe having a special physiology, etc are all things that Lance's teams' managers said back when he was winning, and look what that turned out to be.
There is a phenomena in children called exercise induced asthma. It is way over diagnosed. And most kids grow out of it. Don't get me wrong, kids with asthma can bring on asthma attacks by exerting themselves, but it doesn't require near the amount of exertion as these asthmatics in the peleton. Even Froom once admitted that he hadn't actually had an asthma attack since his was an early teen. As a teen, I quit having the attacks, too, once I learned how to pace myself.
There is a phenomena in children called exercise induced asthma. It is way over diagnosed. And most kids grow out of it. Don't get me wrong, kids with asthma can bring on asthma attacks by exerting themselves, but it doesn't require near the amount of exertion as these asthmatics in the peleton. Even Froom once admitted that he hadn't actually had an asthma attack since his was an early teen. As a teen, I quit having the attacks, too, once I learned how to pace myself.
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I used to have EIA....don't anymore. Found out I was just mildly-allergic to peanuts and tree nuts after 50 years in.
If it walks like a duck...
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Lots of stuff is misdiagnosed. Jenny McCarthy's child was diagnosed as having autism. Thus began her misguided promotion that vaccinations causes autism. After several years, it turned out to be food allergies. Her child was not autistic. But, like many, once invested in the lie, they can't stop repeating it.
First off, I am going to be the last one to tell people to "do your own research", because quite frankly, most people don't know how to do research, or evaluate the sources of their information, but what I will say, is it is OK to question any physicians diagnosis. Ask them, why do you think this is what it is? Are there other possibilities? What rules them out? Etc. It's always good to get a second opinion.
Secondly, I had a physician tell me that sometimes, a physician will give a diagnosis of something like Exercise induced asthma or ADHD because the parent won't take "it's normal, he's a kid" for an answer. Yes, a doctor told me that. I asked another doctor about that, and he confirmed it.
You know what they call the person that graduates at the bottom of their class in medical school? Doctor.
In closing, I have seen someone have an exercise induced asthma attack. It was scary. I've also seen a mom run up to a kid and give him his inhaler because he was breathing heavy after a 100 yd dash. He wasn't breathing any heavier than I was.
First off, I am going to be the last one to tell people to "do your own research", because quite frankly, most people don't know how to do research, or evaluate the sources of their information, but what I will say, is it is OK to question any physicians diagnosis. Ask them, why do you think this is what it is? Are there other possibilities? What rules them out? Etc. It's always good to get a second opinion.
Secondly, I had a physician tell me that sometimes, a physician will give a diagnosis of something like Exercise induced asthma or ADHD because the parent won't take "it's normal, he's a kid" for an answer. Yes, a doctor told me that. I asked another doctor about that, and he confirmed it.
You know what they call the person that graduates at the bottom of their class in medical school? Doctor.
In closing, I have seen someone have an exercise induced asthma attack. It was scary. I've also seen a mom run up to a kid and give him his inhaler because he was breathing heavy after a 100 yd dash. He wasn't breathing any heavier than I was.
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