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#23 ·
It's official. The new Venge... or rather a new aero road bike is being released this season from Specialized. They have sent out invitations to the press for its release. That's all I have to share.
 
#29 ·
there's some new additions to that list.

like the gan.

and the fenix sl.

all updated/approved right around the same time as the venge.

wait... the venge just got approval? Venge Rim?
Scott F02?
 
#31 ·
well, they have dallied long enough

NealH said:
I don't think so. The Venge Rim is merely a Venge with hydraulic rim brakes. We will probably see a new Venge in 2016.
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D'alsusio said recently that they would have an exciting new bike this summer, but I guess not the Venge.
Doesn't matter to me now... Specialized has lost me by waiting this long for a Venge update, at least for this cycle of new frames, I went ahead and bought a 2015 Cervelo S5.
 
#33 ·
The S5 Cervelo is a nice bike, as is the S3 (and S2 for that matter). But none of these aero bikes have the feel and comfort of the Tarmac - at least to me. And with a rider on the bike, the aero frame advantage becomes all but moot. I've thought hard about getting an aero bike for my winters in Florida but, every time I try one I always come back saying that I will just keep riding my Tarmac. If I was a competitive racer then maybe I'd get one but, as a group rider its just not worth the tradeoff in feel and comfort to me. Each person is different though, and some think the Venge rides every bit as good as the Tarmac. More power to them. Nevertheless, I look forward to a new Venge - when that time eventually comes.
 
#35 ·
vertr said:
Specialized's wind tunnel results say otherwise.
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It all comes down to a bunch of factors (and we have been over this far too many times). Yes it matters, but not as much as many suggest. The biggest factor in improving aerodynamics on the bike is getting our big noggins down out of the wind. Improved riding position trumps everything else by a long shot. After that, every little bit helps a significant amount when you are riding in a wind tunnel, but guess what folks? We don't ride in wind tunnels. These factors often become less siginifcant when you are riding in a group, covering rough terrain (Roubaix), and climbing up steep hills and mountains, etc. Good lungs, legs, weight, and riding position crush everything else....period. If you already have that, just want to maximize what you have, or love the techie side of cycling, there's nothing wrong with going aero, just keep it in its proper perspective I say. It's not as much about the bike as it is about the rider in the end, so we might as well go for what makes us comfortable and happy. Racers win crits, stages, sprints, and tours all the time on bikes with traditional geometry. Others choose aero bikes as their weapon of choice almost all season long (Kristoff, Degenkolb, etc.). Do you, but know there is no end all be all when it comes to the bike itself (when it comes to geometry, material, gearing, etc.).
 
#36 ·
Rashadabd said:
It all comes down to a bunch of factors (and we have been over this far too many times). Yes it matters, but not as much as many suggest. The biggest factor in improving aerodynamics on the bike is getting our big noggins down out of the wind. Improved riding position trumps everything else by a long shot. After that, every little bit helps a significant amount when you are riding in a wind tunnel, but guess what folks? We don't ride in wind tunnels. These factors often become less siginifcant when you are riding in a group, covering rough terrain (Roubaix), and climbing up steep hills and mountains, etc. Good lungs, legs, weight, and riding position crush everything else....period. If you already have that, just want to maximize what you have, or love the techie side of cycling, there's nothing wrong with going aero, just keep it in its proper perspective I say. It's not as much about the bike as it is about the rider in the end, so we might as well go for what makes us comfortable and happy. Racers win crits, stages, sprints, and tours all the time on bikes with traditional geometry. Others choose aero bikes as their weapon of choice almost all season long (Kristoff, Degenkolb, etc.). Do you, but know there is no end all be all when it comes to the bike itself (when it comes to geometry, material, gearing, etc.).
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you're one of the sanest folks on the forum ... and all this is absoluely true. but I have to say that the difference is noticeable. Not so much because of the frames on aero bikes, but the whole package... if you have a decent aero frame, deep wheels, fairly slick and narrow bars, it adds up to enough to feel as versus a full-on old school frame, particuarly one set up with exterior cables and shallow wheels.
I run one of each, and the standard frame setup is clearly draggy in high speed pulls and coasting tests (2-3 mph) down major hills at terminal velocity.
But i agree with what youre saying.
Yeah, I have to keep my fat noggin down low in either case. And for example if it was just the S5 frame versus tarmac sl2 or sl3, on the same bars and wheels I wouldnt be able to tell the differences, except in harsher ride quality.
 
#38 ·
thumper8888 said:
you're one of the sanest folks on the forum ... and all this is absoluely true. but I have to say that the difference is noticeable. Not so much because of the frames on aero bikes, but the whole package... if you have a decent aero frame, deep wheels, fairly slick and narrow bars, it adds up to enough to feel as versus a full-on old school frame, particuarly one set up with exterior cables and shallow wheels.
I run one of each, and the standard frame setup is clearly draggy in high speed pulls and coasting tests (2-3 mph) down major hills at terminal velocity.
But i agree with what youre saying.
Yeah, I have to keep my fat noggin down low in either case. And for example if it was just the S5 frame versus tarmac sl2 or sl3, on the same bars and wheels I wouldnt be able to tell the differences, except in harsher ride quality.
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I have to agree... I have a Venge and an Allez comp... set up basically the same from a geometry and riding position standpoint. The Venge is on 50mm carbon wheels and the Allez is actually on 60mm carbon wheels. The Venge definitely goes faster down the same set of downhill sections.

I love bombing down hills... obviously position, rider weight, rider guts (not hitting the brakes) all play a big part... but I routinely pass most of my friends in downhill sections... The only guy that seems to go down as fast as me is on a Tarmac, but he's 30 pounds heavier.
 
#39 ·
TricrossRich said:
I'm 100% certain we'll see a new "aero" frame from Specialized at the Tour.
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I live in the bay area and I saw what I think was Chris D'Aluisio riding an unmarked black bike a few weeks ago in Santa Cruz. I was in a car on a backroad, and saw him stop at a stop sign, before coming past my car. I am thinking this could have been the venge but I guess we will find out soon. I didn't get a great look at it, all I noticed was that the downtube had an interesting or weird cutout in it, almost like a Wilier cento crono. Can't wait to see what the next gen looks like.
 
#40 ·
mile2424 said:
I live in the bay area and I saw what I think was Chris D'Aluisio riding an unmarked black bike a few weeks ago in Santa Cruz. I was in a car on a backroad, and saw him stop at a stop sign, before coming past my car. I am thinking this could have been the venge but I guess we will find out soon. I didn't get a great look at it, all I noticed was that the downtube had an interesting or weird cutout in it, almost like a Wilier cento crono. Can't wait to see what the next gen looks like.
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Oh... yes, driving around looking for people on bikes before the sun comes up cn give a lot of clues.
 
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