[cyclingBuddy]

Hope this thread isn't dead...

First ride on the Altamira this morning. Made it into work in 40 minutes over a 12 hilly-mile route that I always take. Came in 5 minutes faster than my usual time. Gotta be the bike (along w/my enthusiasm I'm sure)!

Congrats on making a great decision porfirio! Welcome to the proud Altamira owners club! Lol

This thread is not dead yet. I just wasn't able to check it for a few days as the schedule has been hectic. Anyway, i'm glad idgitman has been actively posting... Much appreciated.

I'm glad you enjoy your bike... Keep riding and you will shave more than 5 minutes off your time...

 

[cyclingBuddy]

Thanks for sharing the upgrades on your Altamira idgitman! Awesome! It looks sicker! Well-thought and nicely blended into your frame! If you guys lived in SoCal, we could all ride together... Go Team Fuji! Altamira is IT!

 

[porfirio]

I was able to do a 22 rolling hill-miler this morning on my commute. Now I know for certain that the Altamira has a superior ride quality over the Grand Fondo. Interestingly, no sore back & I in fact feel less beat-up. I reckon it may have something to do w/the bike's overall efficiency... this is code for... THE BIKE IS FAST & SO MUCH FUN TO RIDE!

 

[cyclingBuddy]

I was able to do a 22 rolling hill-miler this morning on my commute. Now I know for certain that the Altamira has a superior ride quality over the Grand Fondo. Interestingly, no sore back & I in fact feel less beat-up. I reckon it may have something to do w/the bike's overall efficiency... this is code for... THE BIKE IS FAST & SO MUCH FUN TO RIDE!

LOL! Cool! I have always thought of the Gran Fondo being a better ride as it has a longer head tube; so you are in a more upright riding position. And for that reason alone, I am happy I got the Altamira because I like to ride a bit more aggresively. Not as aggressive as having the SST as I like to do a lot of hills when I ride.

Thanks for pointing that out porfirio. Must be one of the reasons why the Altamira is Fuji's "flagship" and top bike, huh?

 

[porfirio]

LOL! Cool! I have always thought of the Gran Fondo being a better ride as it has a longer head tube; so you are in a more upright riding position. And for that reason alone, I am happy I got the Altamira because I like to ride a bit more aggresively. Not as aggressive as having the SST as I like to do a lot of hills when I ride.

Thanks for pointing that out porfirio. Must be one of the reasons why the Altamira is Fuji's "flagship" and top bike, huh?

Flagship for sure. I still wonder (haven't found anything on line) why there's no internal cable routing. I know the cross versions have it, but not the regular roadies. Could it be that they don't want to compromise shifting? It is a little annoying that the cables are exposed.

 

[idgitman]

Hey Gang, I found this old post and thought I share, since the same was recently a mystery to me and my LBS bike tech.

Enjoy

I'm convinced that I am ridiculous for asking this question. I am planning on purchasing a 2011 carbon road bike kitted with ultegra 6700. Shimano uses the BB86. I don't want the ultegra on the bike, I'd like to swap it for Sram Force. Sram uses BB30 BB technology. So... Will the frame be able to accommodate the different Bottom Bracket system? The bike I want is the 2011 Fuji Altamira 2.0. Here is a link to the specs:

Fuji Bikes - USA Archive

Before I purchase this bike I'd like to make sure it can be set up with sram. my training bike is sram, and i'm afraid i'm not talented enought to fluently use two different groupsets.

jon

I'm sure you've figured this out by now, but if not...

I offer this suggestion. First if you choose a a BB30 crankset you have to ensure that it has an 86.5mm spindle legnth. Std BB30 i think is designed for 68mm BB Shells.

For your altamira BB86, you can not use a std BB30 68mm crankset the spindle will not be long enough. So that leaves your with either 24mm spindle cranksets or BB386evo.

BB86 and BB386evo are NOT the same, I almost found out the hard way. BB/PF86 is based on the shimano std of 86.5mm wide bb shell and a 24mm spindle. BB386evo is base on a 86.5 wide bb shell but for a 30mm spindle. So, BB386 annotation stands for 30mm spindle, 86.5mm shell. PF86 is 24mm spindle 86.5 shell.

There is a solution if you want to upgrade to a BB386evo crankset. The issue is that on a BB386evo bb shell the bore opening is i think 46mm, on the BB/PF86 its only 41mm. The issue with a crankset with a 30mm spindle is that the bearing cups take up a certain amount of space and then you have the bearings, which is why, generally the 41mm PF86 opening can only accomodate the 24mm crank spindle.

However there is hope, Enduro bearings the maker of the bearings for the Rotor cranks which is based of the 30mm spindles makes a bearing that the bearing cup is integrated with the bearing body, and there by allowing the extra clearance need for the 30mm spindle.

The part is BB4130 or 41mm opening (PF86) 30mm Bearing opening (PF30). Originally these bearings came in black and red, however I have only been able to fined them in steel silver lately, I hear that there is also a ceramic version that yellow/gold in color, but the also cost in the $180-200plus range.

Hope this helps.

PS

If you still riding your altamira there is a new forum that started recently...
Fuji Altamira fans out there?

 

[Mr645]

There is a lot of compatability between Sram and Shimano. Perhaps you can keep the Ultegra cranks and use Sram derailuers, shifters and such

 

[Mr645]

Just a pick of my 2012 Altamira with the Enve wheels. Amazing how much easier the bike goes forward in windy conditions compared to the Oval wheels

 

[jsigone]

CX version count?


Altamira CX 1.3 by jsig1, on Flickr


Altamira CX 1.3 by jsig1, on Flickr


dirty switchbacks by jsig1, on Flickr

 

[idgitman]

CX version count?


Altamira CX 1.3 by jsig1, on Flickr


Altamira CX 1.3 by jsig1, on Flickr


dirty switchbacks by jsig1, on Flickr

Hells Yeah!!! It's and Altamira ain't it! LOL Welcome jsig1, looks great !

 

[idgitman]

Looking good MR645! I like what's the depth on those? Man, I get the shivers everytime I see your frame...

 

[cyclingBuddy]

Looking good MR645! I like what's the depth on those? Man, I get the shivers everytime I see your frame...

Nice one Mr645! Love the ENVE SES 3.4s! BoB all the way! Sick! Excellent choice in wheels and set up... I'm sure you're loving the roll... I hope you got the tubulars as they have a much better roll compared to the clinchers. What hubs do you have? The Chris Kings or DT Swiss?

Idgitman, if im not mistaken, the ENVEs that Mr645 has 35mm depth in the front wheel and 45mm in the rear. Much better handling in crosswinds compared to my 45s... The nice thing about those wheels is that they make ANY bike bad a*s. I also agree that the BoB frame Mr645 is awesome! By the way, how's your Altamira coming along? All done?

Thanks also for sharing the post on the BB86, 386, 30 etc...

 

[Mr645]

Thanks for the kind words. I really enjoy my bike, even though those Evne wheels were demo's that I had to give back after an hour.
I think they were tubular and had Vittorio slicks on them. They seemed to add about 1mph to my speed in heavy winds, and that's considering that I ode the route with the Oval 330 wheels first.

If I did buy them, I would be even faster peddling from the wife after she found out how much they cost.

 

[idgitman]

Thanks for the kind words....

If I did buy them, I would be even faster peddling from the wife after she found out how much they cost.

LOL I hear you on that. Glad I'm not married at this moment. In fact I only ended up getting the Altamira because I bought my girl friend a WSD GT it has Ultegra everything, Mavic wheels, and Richie carbon all over the place. Funny thing is, I got the bike at a steal for $600 from a would be Tri-athlete... Problem was I couldn't let her have a better bike that me, considering this was her first bike, my ego just wouldn't let it ride. To even further compound matters, the My stock Altamira was just marginally a one-up, so The I just had to blow it out the water and just replace everything so it was clear that my bike is better...LOL So, as my buddy puts it, her $600 bike + my ego ended up costing me about $4500...SMH, and mind you, I was happy as a Lark on my Fuji Cross Pro...LOL

 

[idgitman]

...By the way, how's your Altamira coming along? All done?

Thanks also for sharing the post on the BB86, 386, 30 etc...

No problem, I wish I had been educated about all the different Bottom Bracket standards and the specs regarding each, I'd be riding my bike, well if it weren't for the snow and ice, and fridgid temps here in DC...

But to answer your question , no, I have not had the bearing s pressed in yet, The unexpected snow down south has slowed my shipment of Loctite. As i had stated about the enduro bearings about the bearing cup being part of the bearing to accommodate the 30mm bb386evo spindle if the bearings ever go bad the whole bear which includes the integrated steel cup has to be replaced. So I chose a special loctite (609) that's for applications that will need to be serviced/taken out opposed to the loctite 480 that's recommended for the bottom brackets that have independent bearings and bearing cup, where the bearings can be replaced/service d with out removing the cups.

It's on its way now, it got stuck in Atlanta coming from Florida.

 

[cyclingBuddy]

CX version count?


Altamira CX 1.3 by jsig1, on Flickr


Altamira CX 1.3 by jsig1, on Flickr


dirty switchbacks by jsig1, on Flickr

Nice photos jsig1! Yes, the CX counts. It is still very much an Altamira! i envy the clean downtube (no wires) and i like the color! I am hoping to try the CX version or just Cyclocross itself. Really intrigued about the fun it can give us who are hooked on cycling...

Welcome to the Fuji Altamira club and keep riding! Thanks for sharing your photos! Enjoy the ride!

 

[jsigone]

thanks, frame is routed for Di2 in case I ever want to make it an electric dirt bike LOL but internal cable route do look good. But I'm happy with the SRAM force. Only thing I might really change to the shifting group is swap out the force rear D for a Wifli version so I can run a 30 or 32t cassette. 36x28 might not be low enough....I'll know more after tomorrow ring around Palomar Mt tomorrow.

 

[idgitman]

36x28 might not be low enough....I'll know more after tomorrow ring around Palomar Mt tomorrow.

I guess you are referring to 36t front chain ring and 28t largest rear cog? If so, your probrably right, thought about going compact? that way you'd get a 34t in the front, and if you still want to go more teeth in the back that would just better your low gear chances...

I have a 2010 Fuji Cross Pro that I ride more on road than cross, but I recently put compact front rings on and am glad I did so. The only draw back is little to big chain ring shifting, the tooth diff is higher by 6, so I find that I have to manually trim the rear by 1 or 2 before shifting the front...

 

[idgitman]

By the way, how's your Altamira coming along? All done?

I got the Bearings pressed in and with great excitement rushed home to install the Crankset...
Well, you can probably tell by how I started this that it wasn't successful. Long story short, The FSA tech apparently knew what he was talking about when he said that the version of the BB386evo k-force lights that I have wouldn't work, they bind to the point they don’t rotate when partially tightening them. He did say that there was a machining oversight that they corrected in a later version and is accommodated for in the new 2014s.
For the older version the spindle has to be etched '...BB86/30’ mine is etched 'BB30/86', based on what happened, I would say the spindle is too short. prob by .5mm. probably since when using the crankset on a BB30 frame, FSA has adapters to take up the extra space, or the spindle my not be exactly 86.5mm, or that BB86 may need a little extra clearance than a true BB386, could be the way the BB shell is situated...?

Anyways, it didn’t work, so I'm waiting to see if Wiggle will have a %off coupon that I can apply to the 2014 FSA K-force. At $621 I need all the help I can get, I didn’t plan on spending that much $$ on a crank set, plus the cost of bearings, and labor to get them pressed in.
Had I known I would have just kept my original bearings and put in a Dura-Ace and saved $250+.

Oh well, Hope this helps so you all don’t fall into the same pit

 

[jsigone]

I guess you are referring to 36t front chain ring and 28t largest rear cog? If so, your probrably right, thought about going compact? that way you'd get a 34t in the front, and if you still want to go more teeth in the back that would just better your low gear chances...

My super6 is setup w/ 50/34 which is fine, I can adjust the cassette per ride type 11/23, 11/25 or 12/27 for climbing only days. In most cases I'd be in either ring most of the time. The CX bike is in between that world where I shift allot more in the larger rings to stay in the RPM range I want. It would be allot cheaper to put a 34 on and call it a day but I need more range for the stuff I'm up against, going from 36x28 to 34x28 might not be enough. Saturday I did Nate Harrison grade on Palomar Mt (think Tour of CA if you're not local) is 2hrs at average of 9.4% climb. MANY steeper ups in there where I was pulling on the top of the bars for leverage just to turn the pedals. I refused to walk:thumbsup: and can't stand in most section either or tires will slip.

Bike Ride Profile | CX half ring around Palomar Mt near Escondido | Times and Records | Strava


half way up Nates pano by jsig1, on Flickr


up up and away....err more ups by jsig1, on Flickr


around 4100ft on nate harrison grade by jsig1, on Flickr


chilly above 5k ft by jsig1, on Flickr


clear views to downtown san diego from Palomar Mt by jsig1, on Flickr


Overlooking southgrade by jsig1, on Flickr