They were cheap at a local shop with a dressing room and they fit great, so I bought them. I actually like the padding in them better than on the men's shorts that were in the shop. Label inside said they were made in 2020, which could have had something to do with the low price. I have not worn "official" cycling shorts since the 1990s, just wearing cut-off dress or casual pants, but when I looked for the cycling pants I used back in the 90s I could not find them, so getting another pair was on my list of things to do and this is how it went down. Will keep track of this new pair and hopefully will be around to use them once in a while when I am in my 90s.