This thing is awesome. If this what Pinarello calls mid level I can't imagine how amazing a Dogma is. I have spent about a week on this frame now and it is stiffer than my aluminum Prince, smoother than my Serotta Colorado and don't get me started on how well this thing tracks, I swere I could ride thing through a large sweeping turn at over 30mph with my hands of the bars. Atleast untill new bike lust sets in again I'm in heaven. 