[rplace13]

I'm no expert but I loves me some Pinarello and this 80s paint. Terrible pictures I know. Can't decide what model/year this is...or if it is even real. Found an 85 catalog online but none offered in that paint (ARCO LA I think) have a clamp on FD which I think this one does.

So what year/model you all guess it to be? Has to be after 84 if it actually is legit. If it is respray could be just about anything.

Real/Fake. Pass on it or consider? Many thanks in advance for any and all info. Fork and lug detail make me believe it is at least a Pinarello...but again I am not expert. Fair price for frame only??? Since I'd hope at best to off the parts and make back a few bucks but not much.

 

[Cinelli 82220]

Nice find, that is a replica of the bike Alexi Grewal won the Olympic road race on.

There was a test of it in Bicycle Guide in '85.

 

[rplace13]

Yea for sure a copy of the Road Race Champ's Pin Super Record, but with lots of decals available and not much info I am wondering if it is "real". Perhaps just paranoid but not correct components from pinarello catalogs of the day and decals seem to be different on various years. I found mention of that color available in 85 catalog but this one looks to have clamp on Front Derailleur while models that sport that color combo have braze on. Wondering if possible they did that color combo in 86. But I can't find info for 86 models.

 

[paredown]

Catalogs for most bikes BITD were a rough guide--what showed up on a particular bike sometimes varied by national markets (Peugeot comes to mind), by the distribution channel (some bikes were frame only and then kitted out), the guys on the assembly line (true of a lot of English bikes), whether there was a world-wide shortage on some component or other (for which reasonable substitutions were made at a moment's notice, especially during the bike boom), or whether the guys just found a box of parts or decals on the top of the shelf that everyone had forgotten about for a half a dozen years (no nationality, just reality).

That looks dead right to me--that 'T' cutout on the lug is Pina--and if you flip it over and there is a particularly crude looking cable guide on the bottom of the BB, that will also say Pina to me. Not sure about model though.

Are you thinking about buying it?

 

[rplace13]

I hear you on changing things on the fly to meet demand. Not worried about the parts on the bike at all as the originals from that era are long gone. Agree that lugs and even seat stay caps scream pinarello. No luck getting BB picture.

Yes very interested to purchase but knowing right model might tell me tube set and thus value. Lots of info here. Higher models have more chrome than this one. Models that seem to match this one with right chain stay chrome and chrome drop outs don't come in ARCO color.

bulgier.net - /pics/bike/Catalogs/pinarello85/

Not hard to imagine a run of special paint on a lesser model, especially if it was popular and selling well since Grewal rode that color to victory at Olympics and this one has Olympic/Italian champ decal.

Pretty reasonable guess it is 85 or 86 as I don't think they would milk the color/sticker much past a few years beyond 84. I'm guessing actual Treviso model (not just city name on it) with a paint job from Record/Super Record model...but not full chrome stays as Record/SR to be consistent with Treviso. But again I am by no means an expert and don't want to buy with my heart and be disappointed with my head. I hardly need another bike, but really like the idea of Pinarello from that era if it is real/original and not just any Pinarello painted and stickered like so many Mercks frames painted 7-eleven or Motorola after the fact.

 

[Cinelli 82220]

Most of those Pinarellos would have been sold as frames so the component issue is moot.

Also Pinarello was a pretty small shop back then and there was a lot of variations even among the same model. And tons of unique one-offs with odd cable runs/braze-ons/paint.

 

[SirVelo']

The higher end models had full chrome rear end. ..seat stays and chains stays...I had one.
This is probably as mentioned before....a lower model. .but I don't think a Treviso though, back then Pinarello had started to try to sell lower end bikes with similar paint jobs. ...but lower tube sets like Columbus Alle and shimano 105.
Rest assured that it is a real Pinarello though. ..all of the lugs indicate that.