[cxwrench]

With road tubeless, not unlike MTB tubeless, different combinations work differently.
I have work in a shop, have a gravel bike, mtb, & 2 road bikes ALL tubeless. With Rovals, wider Specialized tires(turbos, 26 OR 28mm work good as do Schwalbes) , one difference, 'older' Rovals used spoke hole plugs, newer w/ rim strips are easier.
I run Campy rims, no spoke holes, little narrower, I can pump most tubeless with a floor pump.
I've put Spec turbos on Zipps, set uo easy, but you will have a ell of a time removing the tire.
I'm an older rider, 64, I do 5000mi a year, long rides, fast rides, 22mph plus, ez rides, I see NO advantage in Tubes. . . But again, it depends on what works with your wheels.

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No advantages?

No mess.
Better ride quality.
Generally lighter weight.
Easier install/removal.

Let's hear your side of the story since opinions matter. Just so you know I think mtb tubeless is the ONLY way to go. Road...nope.

 

[cxwrench]

I've never been one to over inflate tires to avoid pinch flats. I run the pressure that feels comfortable to me and enjoy the ride quality the 99.999% of the time I'm not pinch flatting. I'll never understand why people inflate their tires to what I think is higher than optimal pressure all the time to avoid what is maybe a once or twice a year flat. For this reason I don't notice any difference in ride quality. As tire sizes have gone up the chance of pinching is reduced. If you want to avoid most pinch flats keep your eyes open, that helps a lot. In reality most people probably ride the same roads most of the time. You should know what to expect in the way of road damage, railroad tracks, etc.

It only took one sliced TL tire and the resultant mess/hassle for me to go back. I'm not a rider that flats very often so it was an easy choice.

 

[cxwrench]

Yeah, exactly. When I was roadracing my ZX7 Kawasaki with WERA I found tubes really made me go faster and it road better. The ride on both my Camaros improved, they handle better with tubes and my truck pulls our boat much better with tubes too. Even our boat trailer pulls easier with tubes...... Tubeless sucks!

You're comparing apples to...not even oranges, more like grapes. The one really important difference is that car/moto tires don't use a sealant. The casings are much much thicker as are the treads.

 

[cxwrench]

Not my intention to derail this thread but it's kind of on its own now anyway. So I recently took possession of a bike tubeless ready including (40 mm) tubeless tires but I am running tubes as I have no immediate plan for tubeless. After mounting the tires I had to run the PSIs into the 80s to get the entire tire bead onto the shelf. I thought that seemed like a lot but this setup is new to me. Having been in this game for a few decades and been through a lot of tires and rims over the years I have seen a lot of variation. So I am asking this just out of curiosity; what PSI do folks see to get their beads seated on tubeless setups?

It varies hugely. I've had some tire/rim combos seat at as low as 25-30, some take more than 60-70. Some just quietly creep onto the seat, some snap loudly as they pop over the ledge. Bontrager tires and rim strips are generally noisy. Seems like Santa Cruz Reserve rims and Maxxis tires are more quiet. It varies w/ each set up.