[Sablotny]

I'll second these

Japanese Paramounts, nobody is exactly sure but me thinks Panasonic made them. Very good frames and undervalued.

Japanese Paramounts? A huge letdown for the faithful. Except - they were actually very well made frames. I nabbed one on Ebay for $150 and made a townie out of it for my sister in law. Nice lugs, paint, braze-ons...

 

[orbeamike]

A small mid-90s production: AFH

(custom paintjobs for a gentleman in my town and his wife)

Cool looking frames. not so water carrying friendly.

 

[Minjin]

Cool looking frames. not so water carrying friendly.

Just fill the frame up with water and use a straw...

 

[Sablotny]

what happens if you decide you need to change your saddle height by half an inch?

Internal cable routing was pretty sleek.

 

[FatTireFred]

motobecane

 

[Topher]

I consistently see a lot of older titanium going for great prices... particularly merlin and dean...

 

[Herkwo]

Under the "Forgotten Frames" -- The old defunct Airborne Ti Frames (Zeppelin, Manhattan Project, Valkyrie, etc). Not to be confused w/ the new "Airborne" MTBs.

 

[sonic_W]

Rhygin Metax. Stainless frames before their time.

 

[Dereck]

That Giant and the two AFH make me wonder what bikes would look like now if cycling was driven by the standards of "New! Exciting! Product!" rather than the UCI's determination that bikes will look as close to the 1960s standards as they can enforce...

Did idly wonder that you better know your saddle height pretty accurately with the AFH though.

D

 

[acg]

Under the "Forgotten Frames" -- The old defunct Airborne Ti Frames (Zeppelin, Manhattan Project, Valkyrie, etc). Not to be confused w/ the new "Airborne" MTBs.

The Airborne design was resurrected by a Dutch company called Van Nicholas:

http://vannicholas.com/

The Chinese company which originally supplied the titanium frames to the old Airborne company now makes them for Van Nicholas.

 

[atpjunkie]

actually that bike pictured

Very subjective, but I'll play! I like the Cervelo Prodigy and Renaissance steel frames, and I'm not a steel guy. Clean, modern look with nice graphics IMO. The Prodigy was completely nickel plated, then painted, with the logos being the nickel peeking out. As aluminum was King and carbon was coming on strong circa 2000, they didn't sell well. I remember Supergo blowing them out for $300 or something, and thinking I should pick one up. I didn't.

were the super prodigy model
the prodigy was white w/ red cervelo on them. Great bikes, a tad cheaper, and they had slightly less nice tubing in the rear triangle
the plated ones were the Super Prodigy and some were raced by CSC in the Spring Classics
One of the last steel bikes in the Pro Peloton, there was one other, anyone remember (besides the custom steel Ballan rode @ Lampre)?

 

[perttime]

what happens if you decide you need to change your saddle height by half an inch?

Nobody has explained it to me and the LBS has sold the last one...

... but the seat seems to be fixed with some sort of a bracket. If the bracket is not adjustable, you'd have to make a different one.

 

[Sablotny]

Maybe

were the super prodigy model
the prodigy was white w/ red cervelo on them. Great bikes, a tad cheaper, and they had slightly less nice tubing in the rear triangle
the plated ones were the Super Prodigy and some were raced by CSC in the Spring Classics
One of the last steel bikes in the Pro Peloton, there was one other, anyone remember (besides the custom steel Ballan rode @ Lampre)?

Here's a standard Prodigy, not Super, all nickeled up. Just finished on Ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...336798&si=HT4Xl5bPR6nmipaGb9RkWIQlTd0%3D&viewitem=&sspagename=ADME:B:SS:US:1123

 

[3v1lD4v3]

I've ridden a Tange 2 tubed Shogun 800 since 2000, when I picked it up for $100. I think it's '88 or '89 by the components. There is nary a word about them online.

 

[rubbersoul]

I've ridden a Tange 2 tubed Shogun 800 since 2000, when I picked it up for $100. I think it's '88 or '89 by the components. There is nary a word about them online.

That bike looks about as classy as that back yard...

 

[3v1lD4v3]

That bike looks about as classy as that back yard...

Can't mow if I'm out riding.

 

[OldEndicottHiway]

That bike looks about as classy as that back yard...

Geez. Slam the guy's bike, and his home.

Nice!

 

[Cinelli 82220]

Looks fine to me. A bike that is obviously being used is automatically cool.

 

[cbk57]

Recomended Opera by Pinarello

I have an Opera Giorgione. This is the best handling and all round frame I have ever owned. I highly recommend anything by this brand. They are incredible bikes that are rare and can be purchased without the Pinarello premium. I especially like the earlier ones that were made of mostly aluminum except for the chain stays as these were welded in Italy. The Canova which is more common is based on the Pinarello F4:13 and I don't know where those were made.

 

[cbk57]

Recommended Opera by Pinarello

I have an Opera Giorgione. This is the best handling and all round frame I have ever owned. I highly recommend anything by this brand. They are incredible bikes that are rare and can be purchased without the Pinarello premium. I especially like the earlier ones that were made of mostly aluminum except for the chain stays as these were welded in Italy. The Canova which is more common is based on the Pinarello F4:13 and I don't know where those were made.