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I have been rolling on a set of Zen built XR270s (20/28) for about 6 months now. I have them on my CX bike which sees a lot of gravel roads; don't race. So far so good. With all my kit on including camelbak I generally weigh a little over 180..
 
Thanks Zen. What about minimum spoke count? I'm thinking 105 hubs at present so minimum for those would be 32,but if I go different hubs, how low would you go?
105 hubs with XR-270 rims makes a nice set of wheels. As you mentioned they will have to have 32 spokes.
Shimano 105 XR-270

24f/28r would be the minimum spoke count I would consider with XR-270 rims, although 32 rear spokes is worth considering if you are hard on wheels.
 
Sorry to hijack this thread, but with my limited posts, I can't start a new thread.

I'm 41, 6' 1", 220-230 lbs and new to road riding (been MTBing for 10 years).
Have a new ride with 1800g OEM wheels.
I'm looking for something lighter (1400-1500 or possibly lighter) but strong enough for everyday riding.
I've been reading this site (the last 5 hours and checking Zen's site).
Thinking XR270s, cxrays and WI's H2 & H3 with a 28/32 count, am I in the ballpark?
Do I need the heavier XR300's?
Price range is $500 - $1000 with postage to Australia.
Am help would be greatly appreciated.
Regards
Dave
 
Sorry to hijack this thread, but with my limited posts, I can't start a new thread.

I'm 41, 6' 1", 220-230 lbs and new to road riding (been MTBing for 10 years).
Have a new ride with 1800g OEM wheels.
I'm looking for something lighter (1400-1500 or possibly lighter) but strong enough for everyday riding.
I've been reading this site (the last 5 hours and checking Zen's site).
Thinking XR270s, cxrays and WI's H2 & H3 with a 28/32 count, am I in the ballpark?
Do I need the heavier XR300's?
Price range is $500 - $1000 with postage to Australia.
Am help would be greatly appreciated.
Regards
Dave
I have a set of Kinlin XR300, WI H2/H3, CX-Ray, 24/28, x1, x3, brass nipple wheels here that weigh a total of 1594 grams. So getting below 1500 grams even with XR270 rims and less exotic spokes (like Sapim Race or DT Comp) would still be in that weight range. At your weight I wouldn't suggest any less wheel weight.

I have a set of BWW Blackset Race here and they weight 1410 grams. Their newer version (slightly heavier rim) is about 1500 grams. And they suggest those wheels for under 198lbs. That's probably a bit conservative but they make their own suggestions. I would not recommend them for you. The rim itself would be close to the 400g mark which is quite light. Wheelsets like Ksyrium with far less spokes will have a much heavier rim to make up the strength of the lost spokes. But then most Ksyrium models are heavier than 14-1500g.

I'm no slower on the Kinlins than on the Blackset Race (I'm 170lbs) so I can't see the point of you pushing the weight limits for any good reason.
 
Thank you for the lighting fast reply Mike.

You told me what I think I knew but didn't want to hear. I will have to be happy with wheels under 1600 and maybe close to 1500. I like the look of the Mavic Ksyrium Elite and they are 1550 but they don't get a great rap for their hubs and longevity.
So I thought I should be able to get some Zen built wheels around the 1500 mark with better hubs that would handle my weight (I feel I ride soft, off the saddle over bumps, etc due to my MTB background).
I will have to send Roland and e-mail and see what he suggests.

Thanks again, I really appreciate you time.

Dave
 
You told me what I think I knew but didn't want to hear. I will have to be happy with wheels under 1600 and maybe close to 1500. I like the look of the Mavic Ksyrium Elite and they are 1550 but they don't get a great rap for their hubs and longevity
There is nothing special about any factory pre-built wheels. For their cost they tend to be overweight and difficult and expensive to buy replacement parts for. And someone has to pay for their advertising. Custom built wheels can be tailored for your needs and are always easy & cheap to repair and service. They only lose out in the flashy decal department. You'd be surprised how many people place that as a high priority.
 
I just built up a set of the xr19 rims last week.
28 hole 2 cross front and rear.
Superlight hubs. Sapim Lasers front NDS rear, and Sapim Race DS
Came out to 1450ish grams.

They built up easier than the 200's and 270's in my opinion.
I have put about 75miles on them so far and they have been great.
I am 6' 0" and weigh 170lbs in gear.

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I just built up a set of the xr19 rims last week.
28 hole 2 cross front and rear.
Superlight hubs. Sapim Lasers front NDS rear, and Sapim Race DS
Came out to 1450ish grams.
They built up easier than the 200's and 270's in my opinion.
I have put about 75miles on them so far and they have been great.
I am 6' 0" and weigh 170lbs in gear.
Great! I've been considering lacing a set up for myself for the new season. Why did you choose the xr19 over the 270? I'll be experimenting with Revs all round as a smart engineer over at MTBR.com has convinced me that if they're ok for him - 200lbs+ on a 29er mountain bike, and he's built lots of sets - then they will be fine for me at 170lb on a road bike. With those rims, hubs and spokes I'll assume you got the stuff at BikeHubStore eh?
 
Great! I've been considering lacing a set up for myself for the new season. Why did you choose the xr19 over the 270? I'll be experimenting with Revs all round as a smart engineer over at MTBR.com has convinced me that if they're ok for him - 200lbs+ on a 29er mountain bike, and he's built lots of sets - then they will be fine for me at 170lb on a road bike. With those rims, hubs and spokes I'll assume you got the stuff at BikeHubStore eh?
Yes I got all the goods at bikehubstore. Curiosity is the main reason I went with the xr19, it saves a little weight over the 270 also. Only time will tell with the durability, but I am a fan so far.

Jake
 
Yes I got all the goods at bikehubstore. Curiosity is the main reason I went with the xr19, it saves a little weight over the 270 also. Only time will tell with the durability, but I am a fan so far.
Jake
I considered the 200 but figured for general purpose training wheels that they we just too light. I would have chosen the 270 (the 300 are way overkill for me) but then the xr19 came out and they then became a choice as they split the difference between the 200 & 270.
 
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