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Alternatives to integrated cockpits

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#1 ·
Folks,

All the frames I’m interested in at the moment – like the ICAN FL1 – feature fully integrated cockpits.
I’m wondering if it is possible to set them up with externally routed hoses/cables and a separate bar and stem?

If it is possible, how much work, hassle and/or extra parts is needed to achieve it?
Is it as simple as finding (or 3D printing) a clever bottom spacer that lets you run the hoses and cables into the frame through the head tube?
I’ve never worked on a fully integrated bike, so it’s a but of a mystery to me.

I’m happy with internal routing through the frame. But I’d prefer a bit more flexibility in the cockpit to accommodate travel or swapping bars and stems.

Any insight and advice would be super welcome.

Cheers
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#2 · (Edited)
You're not going to have cable stops so that's going to make things difficult. Modern bikes are a travesty in terms of serviceability...

The idea of a custom 3D printed spacer sounds interesting, have at it and post a pic if you get it to work!
 
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#3 ·
You're not going to have cable stops so that's going to make things difficult. Modern bikes are a travesty in terms of serviceability...
^^^This. Internal cable routing sucks. The best solution to this problem is Di2. Granted you still have brake cables/hoses, but those need to be changed far less often than shift cables.
 
#4 ·
Does this frame require the use of an integrated cockpit ?, or is it like every other I've seen where the stem still clamps around the steerer tube and uses 2 bolts to tighten ?. The question is what's stopping you from not installing the integrated stem/bar and just bolting on a regular stem and bar ?. Kind of a question for the frame manufacturer.
 
#5 ·
I'm looking at an ICAN FL1 frame, which does use a 2-bolt stem.
I've reviewed the data sheet and it says -- "Headset: top 1-1/2",down 1-1/2"(fit FSA NO.55R)."
I didn't recognise what an FSA NO.55R was. But it appears to be a semi-integrated headset system, so that'll be my solution.

The reason I was asking is just about every frameset I've been looking at appears to be integrated. I figured there has to be a way to get around it, but I wasn't having any luck finding one.

If you bolt on a regular bar/stem, you still need a way to get the rear derailleur cable and rear brake hose into the frame. Most of these frames don't have the usual ports on either side of the downtube.
I'll try the FSA 55R and see how I get on.
Worst case, I could always run it all outside using zip ties! Ugly, but I doubt it'd slow me down much.

Cheers
 
#9 · (Edited)
FSA and Deda Elementi make two-piece bar and stem combos that seem to fit your needs. They're user adjustable for integrated and semi-integrated routing. I would try something like this instead of adding 3D printed external cable stops to an aero optimized bike.

FSA SMR/ACR System:

Deda Elementi DCR System: