[dirtiClydesdale]

You could check out Lighthousecycles.com and see if you find something appealing. I ride a Lighthouse and love it. He builds bikes to fit your exact dreams. Probably $2K for frame and fork either fillet brazed or lugged frame. It does not hurt to look at his website. His metal work is best described as art work. The bikes are razor clean. He has been building bikes since 76 and can fit a heavy rider into an appropriate frame. He likes you to come to the shop to begin the fitting process but can work with you on-line if your to far away. However a trip out there is a good vacation as the area is very beautiful and lots to do and see as well as being cycling paradise. Morrow Bay and Hearst Castle are not far away.

Ooohhh... that is central California. Im sure I can/will get to their eventually. My work takes me on the road for 5 days a week. So, Ive been to customers out in that region a few times. Ill definitely give them a look...

 

[Peter P.]

I could see where at your weight compressing the carbon dropouts in a rear wheel mounted trainer might be and issue. However as far as I know, Cervelo doesn't place weight restrictions or trainer restrictions on their frames.

The cheap route is to have it repaired. I'd get at least 3 quotes just to see whether that's actually a repairable section of the frame.

You could get the frame repaired and then sell it to recover some of your costs.

One point does not plot a trend so I say go ahead and get it repaired. If it happens again, I think you have an answer that carbon is not for you.

 

[Trek_5200]

It's true, and one of the reasons we don't carry Cervelo anymore. The 'fork recall', then the bottom bracket issues. We probably dealt with 40-50 warranty frames while we carried them.
As for the weight...@MMsRepBike you're wrong on this one. The lightest R5CA frame we ever weighed was 754g for a 54cm. The lightest Emonda frame we've weighed was 700g for a 56.

Cervello owner. Should have realized.

 

[Tachycardic]

Get a Soma Smoothie for about $400 and be done with it. Treat yourself to something nicer when you've hit your target weight.

 

[Trek_5200]

Get a Soma Smoothie for about $400 and be done with it. Treat yourself to something nicer when you've hit your target weight.

If it were me I would get something less cutting edge and target a frame that weights at least 850-950 grams or possibly a Ti Bike from a dealer such as Seven or Moots, the latter two have excellent customer service and you don't hear the stories of cracked parts.

 

[goodboyr]

This has certainly drifted a bit OT. The OP reported that he probably crashed the bike or something and broke it. So, now we are back into the "carbon breaks, and Ti doesn't" usual internet forum anecdotal reports. (Yes Cervelo had a fork recall (in 2008!), and certain years had BB issues but tell me about the specialized and trek recalls too......) Next I predict we get the report that carbon is only good for "x" years. And some of us are telling him to get a new bike instead of getting a repair done. Really?

 

[Duane Behrens]

His bike has a removable hanger, that's not the problem.

The problem, in my mind based on what you've said, is the crash/accident. If the dropout ripped off your bike something is terribly wrong.

That's what I was thinking. In the days or weeks prior to the event, did you have the chain replaced? or the rear derailleur replaced? or the cassette? Any of these could result in a chain wrapped too tight, eventually stressing, cracking and breaking the RD hanger when the rider attempts to go to the big-big combination.

Ask me how I know. An event similar to yours is what convinced me to start working on my own bikes. In my case (Specialized carbon Tarmac), only the hanger was broke - the frame wasn't damaged. The hangers are intentionally sacrificial.

 

[CliffordK]

Please post some photos of the damage to your frame with the wheel off.

Replacement derailleur hangers (that aluminum part hanging down) are replaceable for many frames, and relatively cheap. The wheel should help hold everything together.

The dropout itself could be a pain to replace.

Are you the original owner of the Cervello? Talk to the company and see what they can come up with.

 

[dirtiClydesdale]

Please post some photos of the damage to your frame with the wheel off.

Replacement derailleur hangers (that aluminum part hanging down) are replaceable for many frames, and relatively cheap. The wheel should help hold everything together.

The dropout itself could be a pain to replace.

Are you the original owner of the Cervello? Talk to the company and see what they can come up with.

Pictures would have been awesome if I actually was smart enough to do that before I put my bike in the LBS. Pretty much this is the best way for me to explain it...

Its the part of the frame where it looks like a "U" (where the rear derailleur is connected) is what broke. The part of the "U" where the back tire connects and where you tighten the rim with the lever. (See how bike technical I am... lol)

So now... instead of the "U" its half of a "U" because that part broke off with the derailleur hangar. So the hangar didnt break off the frame... the frame broke off with the derailleur hangar.

I dont know how else to explain it except for taking a picture. HTH

 

[Peter P.]

So now we have clarification that the dropout itself broke and not the hanger. That's unusual because typically the hanger and the dropout form a "sandwich" or "cookie" with overlapping layers of hanger/dropout material. Building the frame like this removes any strain on the mounting bolts and threads. The skewer's part in all this would be to support the dropout and the hanger to protect that area from damage. Sure, the hanger can break but it's designed to fail that way and leave the dropout ready for a replacement. I can't see how a crash would have damaged the dropout. I'm still leaning toward the clamping in the trainer possibility. Like I said in my earlier post, I'd be curious if a carbon repair shop could actually repair something as proprietary as a dropout, but good on them, and the customer, if they can.

 

[CliffordK]

I think I was reading that Cervello was experimenting with carbon dropouts Is that really a good idea? Everything I read about CF is that it is very sensitive to things like torque. I have horizontal dropouts, and always get the QR as tight as it will go. They don't have to be quite as tight with vertical dropouts, but still tight enough to not loose a wheel.

Your trainer may put abnormal stresses on the dropouts.

Nonetheless, since it is a frame innovation that isn't an industry standard, I'd push for a warranty repair.

Did I miss another decade? I didn't think the trainers actually attached to the bikes.

Anyway, I'd rather bike on the road than in the living room, but I'll have to decide what to do as another wet Oregon winter is around the corner.

 

[Trek_5200]

There are pros and cons to everything, but with regards to Carbon dropouts two bike makers that I very much respect Colnago and Serotta avoided them who stuck with Aluminum and Titanium respectively. I've read some interesting discussions about the pros and cons of those two metals joined with Carbon, but at the end of the day these were two builders who were willing to sacrifice a few grams in favor of making a bike more durable. Cervelo is all about aerodynamics and speed according to their marketing throwing out watts liberally in their ads, while Colnago and Serotta will talk about ride quality and handling. I don't think Cervelo is alone in Carbon dropouts and its not just about grams but building the frame cheaper.

 

[Marc]

So now we have clarification that the dropout itself broke and not the hanger. That's unusual because typically the hanger and the dropout form a "sandwich" or "cookie" with overlapping layers of hanger/dropout material. Building the frame like this removes any strain on the mounting bolts and threads. The skewer's part in all this would be to support the dropout and the hanger to protect that area from damage. Sure, the hanger can break but it's designed to fail that way and leave the dropout ready for a replacement. I can't see how a crash would have damaged the dropout. I'm still leaning toward the clamping in the trainer possibility. Like I said in my earlier post, I'd be curious if a carbon repair shop could actually repair something as proprietary as a dropout, but good on them, and the customer, if they can.

There are pros and cons to everything, but with regards to Carbon dropouts two bike makers that I very much respect Colnago and Serotta avoided them who stuck with Aluminum and Titanium respectively. I've read some interesting discussions about the pros and cons of those two metals joined with Carbon, but at the end of the day these were two builders who were willing to sacrifice a few grams in favor of making a bike more durable. Cervelo is all about aerodynamics and speed according to their marketing throwing out watts liberally in their ads, while Colnago and Serotta will talk about ride quality and handling. I don't think Cervelo is alone in Carbon dropouts and its not just about grams but building the frame cheaper.

Has Cervelo changed their stance on bike trainers recently? That is the now important question. IIRC they used to call trainer use normal wear. However many frame makers void the warranty if used in a trainer for CF bikes.