[pedalbiker]

He was on a bike to get it.......he can wear the stripes. Whether it's categorized by age, sex, event type, you still won over the rest of the country. That's no small accomplishment.

Road biking seems to have this odd snobbery about wearing certain things.

Yeah, how crazy that you should actually wear something that is related to your event.

Insane!

And it's kind of dumb to just say a national championship is "no small accomplishment" without any context. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't.

 

[PBL450]

I don't care at all, but the different governing bodies point is huge. It's not a cycling championship. Plus, it's against the rules, haha!

• Rule #42//A bike race shall never be preceded with a swim and/or followed by a run.
  
  
  If it’s preceded with a swim and/or followed by a run, it is not called a bike race, it is called duathlon or a triathlon. Neither of which is a bike race. Also keep in mind that one should only swim in order to prevent drowning, and should only run if being chased. And even then, one should only run fast enough to prevent capture.
  
  

 

[MR_GRUMPY]

Duathlons only, and then just for the current year, and in his age group.......(and training, I guess)

If he showed up at a bike race in it, he should catch a lot of grief.

 

[Local Hero]

I'm actually pretty sure that you can only wear the stripes of a past champion in the discipline you won them in, ie: road/crit/tt champions can have them on their road team kit, but if they do a mtb or cx race, it's a no go. Not even sure if you won a collegiate road championship and then turned pro that you can carry that over.

My understanding is that the full championship jersey can only be worn in that particular event, when the individual is the reigning champ. A few stripes on the sleeve is kosher across other events moving forward. Maybe I'm wrong though...but it's not like I will ever have to deal with this personally.

That said, I still ride around and train in my 2012 State Champion jacket. It's not something I could race in though.

 

[Peter P.]

You can only wear the stripes in COMPETITION in the event you won those stripes.

For instance, a cyclocross champion cannot wear their stripes in a criterium.
So I don't think it would be proper for a duathlon national champion to wear a jersey with stripes in a competitive cycling only event, only a duathlon event.

In training however, you can wear the stripes whenever you desire. Here you have a right to proudly display what you earned and in training, group rides, etc., I wouldn't begrudge any champion for doing so.

 

[asgelle]

You can only wear the stripes in COMPETITION in the event you won those stripes.

For instance, a cyclocross champion cannot wear their stripes in a criterium.
So I don't think it would be proper for a duathlon national champion to wear a jersey with stripes in a competitive cycling only event, only a duathlon event.

Is it really that hard to know the rules BEFORE posting?
From 2016 USAC Rulebook:
1J5f(iv) Only former National Champions are permitted to wear the Stars and Stripes pattern on the trim of their jerseys. The Stars and Stripes pattern may be worn in all disciplines, not just the discipline in which it was won.

 

[cxwrench]

Is it really that hard to know the rules BEFORE posting?
From 2016 USAC Rulebook:
1J5f(iv) Only former National Champions are permitted to wear the Stars and Stripes pattern on the trim of their jerseys. The Stars and Stripes pattern may be worn in all disciplines, not just the discipline in which it was won.

I looked everywhere (nearly, I guess) for that part in the rule book this morning and couldn't find it. Thanks for your excellent work.

 

[scott967]

What if the event was a Eat-Ride-Eat duathlon? I think you hit on the distinction, but came down on the other side. Would a biathlete get a medal from the NRA or USSA? Pretty sure the Shoot-Ski-Shoot guys have their own assn... and medals.

No doubt the guy is a legitimate badass, but I don't see it as the same as an MTB or Cyclocross national champ. It's (got to be) all about the bike.

OT, but NRA had a nasty split with USOC, and a new organization (USA Shooting) created to manage international/Olympic shooting. But it doesn't include Biathlon nor Modern Pentathlon.


scott s.
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[Ritsuke]

Is it really that hard to know the rules BEFORE posting?
From 2016 USAC Rulebook:
1J5f(iv) Only former National Champions are permitted to wear the Stars and Stripes pattern on the trim of their jerseys. The Stars and Stripes pattern may be worn in all disciplines, not just the discipline in which it was won.

Didn't know that one. Thanks for the research!

 

[Peter P.]

Is it really that hard to know the rules BEFORE posting?

It's apparently harder than using snarky comments to point out my error.

 

[pmf]

I'm actually pretty sure that you can only wear the stripes of a past champion in the discipline you won them in, ie: road/crit/tt champions can have them on their road team kit, but if they do a mtb or cx race, it's a no go. Not even sure if you won a collegiate road championship and then turned pro that you can carry that over.

Duathlon? No way. It's not even up for discussion.

Bingo. As an example, look at any big stage race like TDF. The guy who won the Worlds time trial is often racing it (Fabian Cancellera comes to mind). He only wears the champion jersey when he's doing a time trial stage.

 

[cxwrench]

Bingo. As an example, look at any big stage race like TDF. The guy who won the Worlds time trial is often racing it (Fabian Cancellera comes to mind). He only wears the champion jersey when he's doing a time trial stage.

But he is allowed to wear the arm/neck bands of a world time trial champion in road events because they (road race & time trial) are cycling events governed by the UCI. Something that isn't a cycling specific event? Nope.

 

[Bee-an-key]

Agreed, the stripes would be appropriate only on the jersey worn for that specific competition, duathlon. The rules are specific, should have a regular team jersey when riding USA Cycling events. Call me old fashion but only you care that you won your state Cat 4 masters criterium championship. ATMO

 

[redlizard]

Whoa!! I didn't expect this kind of activity on the post. Great discussion.

My non-scientific review of replies says about two thirds say it's okay, a third disagree and some don't give a sh*t.

FWIW, he wouldn't be racing in a champions jersey, ever. He's focused on duathlon worlds now, so probably wouldn't race but a few local crits this year.

The big question is really whether or not duathlon is closely enough related to cycling or does the running aspect spoil the pot.

 

[deviousalex]

But he is allowed to wear the arm/neck bands of a world time trial champion in road events because they (road race & time trial) are cycling events governed by the UCI. Something that isn't a cycling specific event? Nope.

Has he actually done this? I've only seen the Swiss flag on his arms for the RR championships he has won.

 

[cxwrench]

Whoa!! I didn't expect this kind of activity on the post. Great discussion.

My non-scientific review of replies says about two thirds say it's okay, a third disagree and some don't give a sh*t.

FWIW, he wouldn't be racing in a champions jersey, ever. He's focused on duathlon worlds now, so probably wouldn't race but a few local crits this year.

The big question is really whether or not duathlon is closely enough related to cycling or does the running aspect spoil the pot.

No, there is no question. He cannot and should not wear anything related to duathlon in a cycling race. He can do whatever he wants when he's training/not in competition.

 

[deviousalex]

No, there is no question. He cannot and should not wear anything related to duathlon in a cycling race. He can do whatever he wants when he's training/not in competition.

And while we are on this topic let's remind people that sleeveless jerseys are not allowed either.

1J5. Jerseys must be worn in all races and shall cover the
shoulders.
(a) Sleeveless jerseys are allowed only in non-international
MTB races and individual time trials. Skin suits may not be
worn in Pro gravity events per UCI rules.

Well I stand corrected, for some reason you can in MTB and ITTs.

 

[Jay Strongbow]

The big question is really whether or not duathlon is closely enough related to cycling or does the running aspect spoil the pot.

That's easy. No.

That'd be like Kristi Yamaguchi wearing an outfit that said Stanley Cup champion. The fact that 2 sports share a skill doesn't make them the same sport and winning at one doesn't mean winning at the other.

 

[pmf]

But he is allowed to wear the arm/neck bands of a world time trial champion in road events because they (road race & time trial) are cycling events governed by the UCI. Something that isn't a cycling specific event? Nope.

Can't a cycling world champion, regardless of what cycling event, always wear the arm or neck band? Even in a year after the win?

 

[asgelle]

But he is allowed to wear the arm/neck bands of a world time trial champion in road events because they (road race & time trial) are cycling events governed by the UCI.

Sorry, no.
UCI Regulations 1.3.064 "When he no longer holds the title of world champion, a rider may wear rainbow piping on the collar and cuffs of his jersey, to the exclusion of any other equipment, as per the technical specifications in the brochure which will be sent to him by the UCI. However, he may wear such a jersey only in events of the discipline, speciality and category in which he won the title and in no other event. In compliance with the provisions 1.3.056 and 1.3.059, he is not authorized to add the rainbow piping on his national team clothing. Any equipment bearing the rainbow piping shall be submitted to UCI for approval before production."