I have to admit I have an attraction for classic steel/lugged frames with a modern twist. I've seen several Nags, Rellos, Merckx, and the like upgraded with newer components and look fantastic. Unfortunately, I've also seen some retro/modern interpretations that look hideous. I'm planning on starting a Neo/Retro build myself and would LOVE to see those modernized classics for some ideas and just admire other peoples efforts. So let’s see those neo classics!
Neo/Modern Retro let's see yours!
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Spec-u-ma-taclier. Personifies neo-retro, very very nice, love the hudz.nayr497 said:I love this thread! Don't think I've posted, so here is my contribution:
Casati a few months back with white Vittoria tires + ti Regal:
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Casati as it rolls now, with blue Veloflex tires + ti perforated Flite:
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After looking back at the older photos, I think I might like it more with the white tires. The Vittorias don't even get too dirty since the white is on the edge of the tire.
This is one smooth riding bike. Very nice to ride. The internal cable routing is slick, and makes cleaning it a breeze. And the seatpost junction with the internal collar is nice as well. Might be my favorite road bike I own in terms of ride quality, but I don't say this in front of the others
Built with Columbus Genius tubing. 2005 frameset, 2007 Centaur gruppo. (I apologize if I've already posted in this thread, but I don't think I have.)
I'd say it is a wreck that was at least put to some use, instead of being thrown in the trash. That seat tube had already been repaired twice.DannyBoy said:
As far as I can tell, at least the frame treatment has real historical precedents, too. Don't know about the wheels and don't know what kind of a bar he plans to put on it when it is finished (if he ever stops changing it).
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a photo from 1986:
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I have 2, first is my '89 waterford paramount OS w/ 8spd dura ace, krysrium SL wheels.
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Next is an early 80s Bianchi pista, to get it running and not spend $ I put some mavic ellipse wheels I had sitting around.
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Next is an early 80s Bianchi pista, to get it running and not spend $ I put some mavic ellipse wheels I had sitting around.
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I don't come here often enough to tell the difference between this and the other retro-pic thread, so I may already have posted these Anyway, here goes:
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Dura Ace 8sp, Reynolds 753.
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Campy Chorus 8sp. Columbus SLX.
Dura Ace 8sp, Reynolds 753.
Campy Chorus 8sp. Columbus SLX.
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2 great looking bikes
here is mine... I have learned a few things about it, but would like to know more. Some specs. Coda saddle now, 3T bar stem (gun metal), chorus everything (10 sp. 2003ish) spd clipless (I know)
<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/53631475@N02/4956820353/" title="apr 11 2010 041 by chrischristal, on Flickr"><img src="https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4086/4956820353_b62fe1e873.jpg" width="500" height="409" alt="apr 11 2010 041" /></a>
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Thanks paredown.. The bike is a pleasure to ride. It is over ten years old and couldn't be more responsive. I am a big guy and most light bikes feel squishy underneath me. I feel like I can push as hard as I want on this bad boy. The only thing I know is it is a limited production racing model with assymetrical tubing. It is simply amazing though. Any Tommasini fanatics post up!!!!!
I came close to buying a second hand Tommasini a few years ago but it did not quite fit 
Googling for Tommasini TecnoExtra finds some information.
This seems to be from around 2001:
http://archive.roadbikereview.com/04/0EEDADAB.php
"TECNO EXTRA frame we re-introduce it with satisfaction after its great success. The frame has been realized with the HT THERMACROM CUSTOM FOCO tubing. The special section of the down tube has been studied, enlarging it to 38mm., to prevent troubles deriving from the use of a extremely lightweight and thin tubing. The tubing shape choice applied on Foco tubing derives from the technical need to preserve stiffness eliminating negative road vibrations reducing the risk of cracks of lightweight tubings. The frame is tig welded with an exception only: the personalized seat lug.
This along with the special bottom bracket shell, the original rear dropouts and the "bell shape" steat stays make the rear triangle properly stiff. The frame is built according to an exclusive geometry designed by Irio Tommasini. It is completely chromed, or as a second choice, all "cataforesi" treated, good for extremely thin tubings because it deeply protect them from rust. Maximum attention to detail: an example are the STI bosses (with adjusting screws included) brazed onto the head tube and the engraved enamelled head tube metal badge. Personalized carbon fiber forks available. The 55 cm frame (painted) weight approx. 1.550 kg (3.417 lbs)."
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I believe this is a 2002 Tecno Extra:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/38393968@N05/page4/
Googling for Tommasini TecnoExtra finds some information.
This seems to be from around 2001:
http://archive.roadbikereview.com/04/0EEDADAB.php
"TECNO EXTRA frame we re-introduce it with satisfaction after its great success. The frame has been realized with the HT THERMACROM CUSTOM FOCO tubing. The special section of the down tube has been studied, enlarging it to 38mm., to prevent troubles deriving from the use of a extremely lightweight and thin tubing. The tubing shape choice applied on Foco tubing derives from the technical need to preserve stiffness eliminating negative road vibrations reducing the risk of cracks of lightweight tubings. The frame is tig welded with an exception only: the personalized seat lug.
This along with the special bottom bracket shell, the original rear dropouts and the "bell shape" steat stays make the rear triangle properly stiff. The frame is built according to an exclusive geometry designed by Irio Tommasini. It is completely chromed, or as a second choice, all "cataforesi" treated, good for extremely thin tubings because it deeply protect them from rust. Maximum attention to detail: an example are the STI bosses (with adjusting screws included) brazed onto the head tube and the engraved enamelled head tube metal badge. Personalized carbon fiber forks available. The 55 cm frame (painted) weight approx. 1.550 kg (3.417 lbs)."
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I believe this is a 2002 Tecno Extra:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/38393968@N05/page4/
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Just swapped over an 8 spd DA cassette and STI's
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My retro/new collection starts with my Merckx AX 1995 vintage with 2006 Centaur group.
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Next is a late '90's Coppi frameset with unusual tubeset "for three" triangulated especially for Coppi I was told.
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Last my light Coppi, also late '90's, Genius tubing.
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Next is a late '90's Coppi frameset with unusual tubeset "for three" triangulated especially for Coppi I was told.
Last my light Coppi, also late '90's, Genius tubing.
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Ha, love the details
Those are three very nice bikes, congrats on having them. I just saw the lovely detail on the Merckx with the orange energizing drink combining with the frame details. The Coppis are nice frames too. The yellow is a little loud, but then again, I think it is one of the safest colors in terms of visibility.bikerjulio said:My retro/new collection starts with my Merckx AX 1995 vintage with 2006 Centaur group.
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Next is a late '90's Coppi frameset with unusual tubeset "for three" triangulated especially for Coppi I was told.
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Last my light Coppi, also late '90's, Genius tubing.
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Gorgeous machine, just by looking at it one can imagine how it handles on the road. There is nothing like a good steel frame. BTW, how much does Serotta charge for refinishing one of there bikes? I am just curious.pablotn said:Circa 1988-89 Serotta Club Special SLX. My race machine in early 90s, and refinished by Serotta in late 2008. DA 7800, Deda cockpit with ITM quill adapter, Mavic OP. Abolutely love riding this machine.
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Diamant "Italy" machine and Colnago Mexico Saronni
Here are some photos of my latest build. I bought this NOS frame because I had a bunch of pieces, after gradually switching my Colnago Mexico to Ultegra. I thought of selling them, but basically I had enough to build a new bike; all that was lacking was the frame. So here is the "Diamant", a Belgian-Italian company. The bike has a Cinelli BB, and is made from Oria GMO.O tubing, similar to Columbus SLX. Oh, and I know I could have found better than those Orange wheels, but LBS are scarce here and they all have the same supplier, who had run out of stock, only Maxxis Detonator in yellow or orange were available, but I have learned to live with it now.
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Below a mix of modern and retro. Pantographed fork, but after many failed attempts to get a period correct stem in the required length, I decided to simply throw a semi-cheap zoom stem on it with a quill adapter and lo, it actually combines with the bike. The finishing touch was finding a handlebar tape to combine with the frame!
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I always love the pantographed details on these frames. The paintjob is also quite interesting with the red/white/green Italy colors that blend progressively into each other.
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Another panto on the chainstays. I put some Tiagra pieces on it that I had bought when I got into roadbiking a year ago and they still have a lot of life in them. And I must say, this system (Tiagra shifters, crankset, rear derailleur, cassette + 105 front derailleur and brakes) shifts flawlessly. Functionally as good as the Ultegra pieces I have on the Colnago. It does have an Ultegra BB, which is English, surprisingly, as the BB is Cinelli and has a serial number on it. I had the BB from an Ultegra crankset I bought that came with an English BB, which I never used because my Colnago has an Italian BB.
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Here are also some pictures of the Colnago Mexico I mentioned above. The frame has quite a bit of history behind it. I really love retro steel lugged frames and when I got into roadbiking I did not want any aluminum, neither carbon. Now, I live and work in Ecuador, Latin America, so I was searching desperately on the local market for something that met my requirements. One day, I am at the LBS and the salesperson is on the phone with someone. After the phone call he says he might have something for me. An old frame of a certain "Colnago" brand. I jumped on the occasion an asked him where I could find that frame. Right at the other side of town. I went there immediately. The owner was asking 120 plus 30 for the steer and stem. I acted as if I didn't really know the brand but anyway needed a bike so I pulled the money out of my pocket and left quickly with the new treasure.
At that time the bike was blue with yellow decals, which was quite nice. But after a year or so, the paint started to peel off at certain strategic places, so I decided to paint it to preserve it from rust. I thought I might as well change the color to the Saronni red, that has some history with this frameset. I had to have the decals redesigned, which was a PITA, because no one could print the stickers, but just when I was about to give up, I found a publicity company that could do it.
The painter they had recommended for this job, was an ex-cyclist, who now has a small workshop. Upon my arrival there with the frame, he recognizes it and says "That used to be mine, I sold it to a few years ago to the guy that sold it to you." Oh, and BTW, that mecanic told me he had won the national championships several times on my bike. Quite an honor for me to ride it now.
So here it is, in a new dress, Saronni red:
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This is a photo of the fork/steer area. The fork has lovely Colnago clovers pantographed on it, which we decided to paint in gold color. I picked up a Cinelli red/black splash cork handlebar to combine with the frame. Now, I know that tape is badly installed, but that is because I asked the mecanic to redo it as he had left the brake cables out and I personally prefer them under the bar tape for reasons of aesthetics. The stem is Cinelli and the handle bar 3T. I decided to go with bar end shifters to keep it a little vintage and to avoid any problem with finetuning or chain rub. Those things are indestructible and utterly reliable. Once you get the hang of it, you don't even notice anymore that you don't have STIs.
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At the same time as the paint job I decided to buy a new set of wheels. Again, I did not want any modern low spoke count wheel so I looked around for something in my taste and I found some Ambrosio Excellence rims laced to Miche hubs on the site of matuzmaster, the English/Hungarian vintage frames and parts seller.
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More panto details:
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And finally the chainstays. I put an Ultegra grouppo (except the brakes, which are 105) on this frame, as Campagnolo is about impossible to get over here and no one knows how to fix it. The tires were the only ones available at the time, so I had no other choice than the yellow, which has already worn a bit and is luckily starting to look like the gold pantographed details, so it somehow combines with the frame. Next time I think I will simply go black on the tires. The fact that the rims are the same color of the frame makes it already a little over the top, certainly if you added red tires to it. It would look like a Ferrari, not like a vintage bike.
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Oh and the only thing I forgot to take a picture of is the Colnago clover cut out at the bottom of the BB. Until the period of this frame that was very common on Colnagos.
Here are some photos of my latest build. I bought this NOS frame because I had a bunch of pieces, after gradually switching my Colnago Mexico to Ultegra. I thought of selling them, but basically I had enough to build a new bike; all that was lacking was the frame. So here is the "Diamant", a Belgian-Italian company. The bike has a Cinelli BB, and is made from Oria GMO.O tubing, similar to Columbus SLX. Oh, and I know I could have found better than those Orange wheels, but LBS are scarce here and they all have the same supplier, who had run out of stock, only Maxxis Detonator in yellow or orange were available, but I have learned to live with it now.
Below a mix of modern and retro. Pantographed fork, but after many failed attempts to get a period correct stem in the required length, I decided to simply throw a semi-cheap zoom stem on it with a quill adapter and lo, it actually combines with the bike. The finishing touch was finding a handlebar tape to combine with the frame!
I always love the pantographed details on these frames. The paintjob is also quite interesting with the red/white/green Italy colors that blend progressively into each other.
Another panto on the chainstays. I put some Tiagra pieces on it that I had bought when I got into roadbiking a year ago and they still have a lot of life in them. And I must say, this system (Tiagra shifters, crankset, rear derailleur, cassette + 105 front derailleur and brakes) shifts flawlessly. Functionally as good as the Ultegra pieces I have on the Colnago. It does have an Ultegra BB, which is English, surprisingly, as the BB is Cinelli and has a serial number on it. I had the BB from an Ultegra crankset I bought that came with an English BB, which I never used because my Colnago has an Italian BB.
Here are also some pictures of the Colnago Mexico I mentioned above. The frame has quite a bit of history behind it. I really love retro steel lugged frames and when I got into roadbiking I did not want any aluminum, neither carbon. Now, I live and work in Ecuador, Latin America, so I was searching desperately on the local market for something that met my requirements. One day, I am at the LBS and the salesperson is on the phone with someone. After the phone call he says he might have something for me. An old frame of a certain "Colnago" brand. I jumped on the occasion an asked him where I could find that frame. Right at the other side of town. I went there immediately. The owner was asking 120 plus 30 for the steer and stem. I acted as if I didn't really know the brand but anyway needed a bike so I pulled the money out of my pocket and left quickly with the new treasure.
At that time the bike was blue with yellow decals, which was quite nice. But after a year or so, the paint started to peel off at certain strategic places, so I decided to paint it to preserve it from rust. I thought I might as well change the color to the Saronni red, that has some history with this frameset. I had to have the decals redesigned, which was a PITA, because no one could print the stickers, but just when I was about to give up, I found a publicity company that could do it.
The painter they had recommended for this job, was an ex-cyclist, who now has a small workshop. Upon my arrival there with the frame, he recognizes it and says "That used to be mine, I sold it to a few years ago to the guy that sold it to you." Oh, and BTW, that mecanic told me he had won the national championships several times on my bike. Quite an honor for me to ride it now.
So here it is, in a new dress, Saronni red:
This is a photo of the fork/steer area. The fork has lovely Colnago clovers pantographed on it, which we decided to paint in gold color. I picked up a Cinelli red/black splash cork handlebar to combine with the frame. Now, I know that tape is badly installed, but that is because I asked the mecanic to redo it as he had left the brake cables out and I personally prefer them under the bar tape for reasons of aesthetics. The stem is Cinelli and the handle bar 3T. I decided to go with bar end shifters to keep it a little vintage and to avoid any problem with finetuning or chain rub. Those things are indestructible and utterly reliable. Once you get the hang of it, you don't even notice anymore that you don't have STIs.
At the same time as the paint job I decided to buy a new set of wheels. Again, I did not want any modern low spoke count wheel so I looked around for something in my taste and I found some Ambrosio Excellence rims laced to Miche hubs on the site of matuzmaster, the English/Hungarian vintage frames and parts seller.
More panto details:
And finally the chainstays. I put an Ultegra grouppo (except the brakes, which are 105) on this frame, as Campagnolo is about impossible to get over here and no one knows how to fix it. The tires were the only ones available at the time, so I had no other choice than the yellow, which has already worn a bit and is luckily starting to look like the gold pantographed details, so it somehow combines with the frame. Next time I think I will simply go black on the tires. The fact that the rims are the same color of the frame makes it already a little over the top, certainly if you added red tires to it. It would look like a Ferrari, not like a vintage bike.
Oh and the only thing I forgot to take a picture of is the Colnago clover cut out at the bottom of the BB. Until the period of this frame that was very common on Colnagos.
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Carbon?! Carbon?!
If Grant were dead, he'd be rolling in his grave right now.
(But, seriously, sweet build!)
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If Grant were dead, he'd be rolling in his grave right now.
(But, seriously, sweet build!)
- FB
Stem conversions?
It was asked earlier, but the answer offered was 'buy a new fork'. But....
How do some of you get the nice threadless stems mounted when you're using the old school threaded fork?? I've tried the quill adapters, but find them terrificly ugly. I'll post a few pics of the ones that look good, and one pic of the look I'm trying to avoid. See if you can tell the difference? Any help is appreciated!!
It was asked earlier, but the answer offered was 'buy a new fork'. But....
How do some of you get the nice threadless stems mounted when you're using the old school threaded fork?? I've tried the quill adapters, but find them terrificly ugly. I'll post a few pics of the ones that look good, and one pic of the look I'm trying to avoid. See if you can tell the difference? Any help is appreciated!!
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