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Official Pinarello Dogma height vs size

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#1 ·
Please post your bike model, height, stem length, and frame size:

Model Dogma 2 BoB
Rider Height: 6'1"
Frame size: 57.5
Stem: FSA 120mm
 
#12 ·
I am not sure why everyone says that pinarellos "Run big".

I am so happy I did not go one size down as recommended here. In fact, I would almost say the run small. The top tubes are short and what throws it off is the super long seat tube. I can probably ride a 130mm stem... The 57.5 (aka 59 seat tube) fits me well.
 
#14 ·
HELP NEEDED ASAP!

Did all the research possible...but could only test ride a 55 Dogma 2 which was way too small. 57 quattro seemed good. LBS and Pinny dealer said I was 57.5 for sure. So I went with a 57.5 and I think it's just a fraction too big. If I switch to 56...will it be too small with much lower bar?

Main problem is TT length. I have seat slammed forward and 80mm stem. Still feel I am reaching a bit...but just slightly. Aaargh. Standover is fine...even with curved tube.

I'm 6' 3/4"...33.5" leg length (to floor, not inseam).
Long in middle which I thought would make TT perfect on 57.5.

Concern: I switch to 56 (and pay rebuild cost) and bar is too low. I prefer more relaxed position. 200 miles/week average.

Return policy is that I need to act fast!
 
#15 ·
Hi

I had the same question as you being 6'1" 560 or 575 but I went with 560 after studying
stack and reach measurements.

I have a BB-seat height of 81cm and require a 1cm spacer the make the drop to the bars comfortable.

So to answer your question, if you drop a size your saddle will be approximately 4mm further back. So hardly noticeable in terms of aesthetics and if you use 20mm or more of spacers with the 575 frame you may need to run a positive angle stem or use another 15mm of spacers which would be nearly at or just over the limit for the frame (someone will confirm).

Hope this helps your decision.
 
#17 ·
Exactly - keep the 56



It does not sound like the other person is a racer so the 56 with a positive stem would be the ticket.

Since I started this post I have made a few changes on my 57.5.

I went to a zero setback post ($395 ouch!) and a 110mm stem and 20mm of spacers for long climbs. I still manage a 9cm drop.

I have short legs, long torso. My saddle height is 78cm C-T and my reach is 550mm tip to bars. Note that I have the Arione CX saddle which has a long nose.

I tried a 100mm stem but run out of space when getting aero. And feel cramped in the cockpit.

I also dumped the Sram red crankset & BB for this set up:
7800 DA crank arms
Praxis chainrings, x10sl KMC chain
DA 9000 BB

Best crankset I have ever ridden. No shifting problems. Fast and precise as DA electronic.
 
#19 ·
Thanks! Hugely helpful. At 6' 1" we're dead in the middle. But slamming seat and short stem is sure sign I'm trying to make a too-big frame work somehow. I think I'll switch...just what I was trying to avoid. Ugh. Probably will run a positive angle stem with spacers. Everyone here is SO helpful.
 
#20 ·
Whoops forgot to address advice on Rokh. Couldn't find ONE within 3 hours to test. Only test was Dogma 55 -- small but amazing. Running positive stem on Dogma...vs. Rokh is great suggestion. Tour De France is not in the works anytime soon. I'm against the time-limit for return/exchange though. TT is biggest problem.
 
#26 ·
Hi Phildhom,

Every bike fitter will tell you a different fit. I have recently gone with a very reputable fitter and thus far his advice worked for me.

I felt that 54cm is a good size for me because I have tried various bikes (not Pinarello) ranging from 53cm to 56cm. So how 54cm fit a lot better than the other 2. The 54cm Dogma 60.1 gives me just enough head tube height so I don't have a funny looking stem style, it feels a lot more stable around the corner and in terms of cockpit space, it feels just right for me (i.e. 53cm - too cramped and not enough head tube height. 56cm - too stretched and I don't have much control over it).

The reason that I run a 90mm stem is because my arms are approximately 2cm shorter than your average person (i.e. 84cm vs 86cm).

For your information, I'm in the process of purchasing a Colnago C59, the geometry that I'm going with is a 50 sloping, which equates to a 53.5cm. I'm hoping that I can run a 100mm or 110mm stem to dumb down the responsiveness and reduce the reach slowly for climbing.

Also, you will need to bear in mind that each Dogma series has different geometry. You will need to check carefully before purchase. From memory, Dogma 2 and Dogma 65.1 are slightly longer than the 60.1.

Furthermore, to throw the spanner into the work, I also have a Pinarello Quattro (commuter), which is a 55cm geometry. My fitter have managed to mimic the setting on 60.1 and transfer it across. It felt exactly the same, in terms of bike setting.

My advice to you would be go and visit a number of reputable bike fitters. Have a chat with them and see who you are most comfortable with and get a bike fit down on the jig before pulling the trigger on a expensive bike.

Hope the above helps you with your decision making.

Below is the photos of my 2 bikes. The 60.1 is on my finally setting. The Quattro is before the setting.



 
#28 ·
I'm 6 ft tall with a 32 1/2 inch inseam. I ended up on a 55cm 65.1 with a 100mm stem. I honestly could have gone with a 54 with a 110 or 120mm stem. But with my previous Roubaix having such a tall headtube, I wanted to keep the stem height/angle in check on the Dogma so went with the larger frame.