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Please help with White Industries front hub

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#1 ·
I have just built up a wheelset with White Industries H1 hubs, and my front hub has play in it. I thought that this may have been caused by the tension of the spokes pulling on the hub and went to the White Ind. website to check out how to tighten the bearings up and found no instructions. The hub is basically like a Phil Wood or many other front hubs with sealed bearings where there are no cones to set a preload with. How do you take out slop on this style of hub? I have played around with the clamping force used by my front QR and even swaped out QRs with no change in play. Any help is greatly apriciated!
 
#2 ·
Remove the skewer. Rotate the axle until the allen setscrew lines up with the hole in the hub body (right side of the hub). Use an allen key (it's 2mm or 2.5mm) to loosen the set screw. Remove the outer spacer on the right side. This spacer has an "axle" on the outside that fits into the fork dropout.

There's another spacer on the right side. Place the wheel on the workbench with the left side axle down. Press the right side internal spacer down to take up the play. You may ned to use a socket since it's slightly inset in the hub shell. I used my thumb. Tighten the set screw just a bit. Insert the outer spacer and tighten the set screw a little more. I don't think it needs to be very tight, and cranking it down can damage the aluminum axle, so take it easy.

The key to taking up the play is removing the outer right side spacer.
 
#5 ·
alienator said:
You don't have to remove a spacer. What you want can be accomplished by loosening the set screw and pushing things together. I just did it. It's about a 2-3 minute procedure.
Alien,

Just curious was this on your front or rear? I just started a thread concerning my rear prior to seeing this one.

JR
 
#8 ·
On mine I have to remove the outer spacer to reliably get the slop out. Loosening the set screw and pushing everything together with the spacer in place doesn't do it, although a couple times I thought it worked only to find out later that I was wrong.

When I took it apart and looked at how the spacers are machined it was obvious why I needed to remove the outer spacer, but I don't remember it well enough now to describe it.
 
#9 ·
welcomdmat said:
I have just built up a wheelset with White Industries H1 hubs, and my front hub has play in it. I thought that this may have been caused by the tension of the spokes pulling on the hub and went to the White Ind. website to check out how to tighten the bearings up and found no instructions. The hub is basically like a Phil Wood or many other front hubs with sealed bearings where there are no cones to set a preload with. How do you take out slop on this style of hub? I have played around with the clamping force used by my front QR and even swaped out QRs with no change in play. Any help is greatly apriciated!
I had this same problem with my Rolf Prima Elan front wheel, took the bearings, adjusting collar, axle end caps, everything apart many times, and could never get rid of the play. I finally bought a complete hub kit and when I replaced all the parts and tightened the set screw just like I always had before, the play was gone. I figure one of the original parts was just machined incorrectly or something.
 
#10 ·
I had the same problem with my rear H1 Hub. After adjusting it several times with no effect, I called the builder. It seems that if you can remove the bearings by just the force of your finger, you need to use some green locktite on the hub where the bearing fits in. I did it and have not had any more issues with it.
 
#12 ·
This post had me take a look at my 6 week old wheels built up from the H1's...and find I have the same issue. I inspect all the time, but recently cleaned the bike end to end....and dind't find anything obvious. But I do have a small amount (noticable by hand, but way less than a mm) of play in the front hub. This is not side to side (the axis of the axle) but perpendicular to it (the plane of the wheel). This is on the non-adjustable end of the axle. Dang!

After taking things apart and making sure all was clean and properly lubed, snugged firmly together during reassembly, the play still exists. I'm sure this is a bearing/axle issue...and will be getting an axle and set of bearings from my building ASAP.

I hope reassembling with those items takes care of the issue.....I don't want to think about an ovalizing of the hub where it holds the bearing!