Both of these are great options. Personally, I would go with the Record Ace because a steel frame these days is still rare. Try finding a new steel frame anywhere else with the lugwork that this one has for the price. In response to Kneejerk's comment I can understand the weight thing and ride quality issue with the Grand Prix. However, that isn't the frame: It's your wheels. I have Velocity Deep Vs and the Weinmann DP18s are essentially a knock off of Velocity Deep Vs. They are stiff and ridiculously heavy, but they are crazy strong. The OP is planning to fix that issue with the Dura Ace wheels. With the right tires, he should be able to shave off a good 1.5 lbs. The rims are at least 1lb. lighter. That's how heavy those Weinmanns are. Most of what you feel are those wheels. You don't need carbon to have a comfortable ride.