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buck-50 said:
Yes- why have a really practical yet somewhat dorky thing on your bike?

Actually, the sign of being a complete noob is judging someone else's bike unworthy (and their abilities as a cyclist) solely because their bike has a kickstand.

for example, there's this total noob on a kickstand-equipped bike:

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That would be 6-time U.S. Champion and olympian Dede Barry. Man, what a stupid noob- she's even got fenders on that noobcycle. And it's a mixte! Every bike shop employee knows you can't ride one of those with out looking like a noob, because they ride ALOT more and ALOT better than any noob... Man, what a walmart bike.

*sigh*

Look, if you want a kickstand, get one- on a racing bike, they aren't exactly necessary- but if you aren't racing and you're mostly commuting or running errands or you just hate leaning your bike against rusty stop signs, Who cares what other people think? Get a kickstand.

Besides, no one steals bikes with kickstands, because only noobs have kickstands and you'd never put one on a $4000 custom bike like the one in the picture... Oh.. wait...

That is a COOL bike!
 
... I'd stopped to take some pics of my bike when a woman with a group of Japanese tourists asked "Why don't American bikes have kickstands?" whereupon I answered, "cuz when we're on the bike... we're goin' somewhere... not parking."

:So desu ne. Wakaremasu desu yo."

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As has already been said... too much weight (call me a weight weenie if U want) to carry round for those rare times when you're stopped (never had probs leaning against something on just laying it down, rear der side up for the occasional pee break or coffee stop).
 
android said:
Uh, no it's not.
Man, I am such a noob. Now I'll never qualify for carbon.:D

What do you call a frame like this? Is it a lady's frame, a dropped top tube frame or what?
 
This thread reminds me of the Klingon Biker Gang. They ride pink bicycles (or tricycles...) with basket, streamer, and bell (and probably a kickstand too). And then they just wait for someone to make something of it.

Dede Barry doesn't LOOK like a Klingon though... And since when are Americans allowed to ride European* commuter bicycles? That's unpatriotic, I say! This is America, she should be commuting in an SUV.

(*OK, it's actually Canadian. But fenders, rack, chain guard, headlight, and internal gearing? Might as well be in Amsterdam)
 
russotto said:
This thread reminds me of the Klingon Biker Gang. They ride pink bicycles (or tricycles...) with basket, streamer, and bell (and probably a kickstand too). And then they just wait for someone to make something of it.

Dede Barry doesn't LOOK like a Klingon though... And since when are Americans allowed to ride European* commuter bicycles? That's unpatriotic, I say! This is America, she should be commuting in an SUV.

(*OK, it's actually Canadian. But fenders, rack, chain guard, headlight, and internal gearing? Might as well be in Amsterdam)
Figure she lives in boulder, which might as well be amsterdam...
 
buck-50 said:
Man, I am such a noob. Now I'll never qualify for carbon.:D

What do you call a frame like this? Is it a lady's frame, a dropped top tube frame or what?
The bike in the picture is just a women's frame.

A Mixte is a very specific type of woman's frame that is structurally very sound. there is not a single top tube, but rather two smaller tubes that run from the top of the head tube all the way to the rear dropout. There is an achor point where they are brazed to the seat tube as they pass by.

here is a typical mixte frame.

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buck-50 said:
Yes- why have a really practical yet somewhat dorky thing on your bike?

Actually, the sign of being a complete noob is judging someone else's bike unworthy (and their abilities as a cyclist) solely because their bike has a kickstand.

for example, there's this total noob on a kickstand-equipped bike:

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I love those whitewall tires.
 
The major reason by far is that you don't want your light weight road bike to fall over - which it is very likely to do if you use a kick stand. It is far, far safer for the bike to lean it against a wall or post, or lay it down when not in use. Compared to a typical non-road, all purpose bike, there are also so many parts that could be damaged if it fell. The heavier, sturdier all purpose bike can withstand this stuff with less severe consequences.

The second reason is that it is not necessary because you can just as easily lean it against a wall or post, or lay it down when not in use. Unnecessary.

All that said, I think it's dumb that bikes generally sold to kids don't have kick stands. My family has several bikes, and my garage just doesn't have enough wall space for the bikes, and I wish the kids' bikes had kick stands.
 
the first time your nice/expensive bike falls over while on a kickstand is a good opportunity to understand why they're not desirable.

oh, and they're fugly.
 
Listen to Camilo and Oxtox.
 
I am not trying to put anyone down sorry if I offended anyone I just hate hearing about a murder of a nice bike. kickstands do have there place like bikes like that one there. but for any mountain bike or road bike it is unnecessary. I just got distraught after reading about mutilating a carbon frame. cause you dont need a carbon frame for commuting. Again I am sorry to stir people up I was sounding like a bit of an ass but drilling a carbon frame come on!! so anyways how did that drill job turn out walter? so in close my foot will remain in my mouth when I am pissy.
 
dwadamcat said:
I am not trying to put anyone down sorry if I offended anyone I just hate hearing about a murder of a nice bike. kickstands do have there place like bikes like that one there. but for any mountain bike or road bike it is unnecessary. I just got distraught after reading about mutilating a carbon frame. cause you dont need a carbon frame for commuting. Again I am sorry to stir people up I was sounding like a bit of an ass but drilling a carbon frame come on!! so anyways how did that drill job turn out walter? so in close my foot will remain in my mouth when I am pissy.
Walter's comment was... :idea: A JOKE!!! :thumbsup:
 
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